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Old 10-28-2022, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Yet another reason for ALPA to push for REVENUE sharing rather than profit sharing. Profit is amenable to accounting gimmicks. Revenue is pretty definite. And it’s not without precedent. States do it all the time with sales tax. They don’t give a rats rear if you are selling items with a tremendous markup or at a loss, they get their fixed percentage.
lol Spirit will never share a cent with pilots. We’ll be lucky if we get meaningful raises.
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Old 10-28-2022, 10:33 AM
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lol Spirit will never share a cent with pilots. We’ll be lucky if we get meaningful raises.
Regardless, the revenue sharing is a fun thought as it would probably be a nice work around for eliminating the FAs "me too" they have for "profit sharing" in their contract. They failed to get their 5 hour min duty "me too" because ours was "tied to PBS."
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Old 10-28-2022, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Looking at the 10-Q, we had record revenue and barely made a profit of 3.6m, after applying some funny money adjustments and write offs. The operation still lost money.



Bang up job by the beard and the boys. They deserve a big bonus.
You laugh, but they're going to get one from B6 for delivering this.

TC: "Look past the loss, we kept costs low!"
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Old 10-28-2022, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Yet another reason for ALPA to push for REVENUE sharing rather than profit sharing. Profit is amenable to accounting gimmicks. Revenue is pretty definite. And it’s not without precedent. States do it all the time with sales tax. They don’t give a rats rear if you are selling items with a tremendous markup or at a loss, they get their fixed percentage.
I can tell, you just don't listen. You get an idea in your head, and no matter how many times, and in how many ways you are shown it is flawed, you just stick your fingers in your ears...
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Old 10-28-2022, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I can tell, you just don't listen. You get an idea in your head, and no matter how many times, and in how many ways you are shown it is flawed, you just stick your fingers in your ears...
Nothing flawed about it. It works fine for 48 states and the. District of Columbia. The fact you feel it is “flawed” doesn’t make it flawed. You are entitled to your opinion, but it’s no more than your opinion. You aren’t the universal arbiter of flawed and unflawed.
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Old 10-28-2022, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I can tell, you just don't listen. You get an idea in your head, and no matter how many times, and in how many ways you are shown it is flawed, you just stick your fingers in your ears...
hahaha I can’t believe y’all are still arguing with that guy
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Old 10-28-2022, 05:10 PM
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hahaha I can’t believe y’all are still arguing with that guy
Ex cargo troll is like that crazy boomer uncle at the family Christmas dinner who claims the moon landing was fake and that Obama is the anti-christ, so everyone just kind of nods in agreement just to get him to shut the F up and go take his nap.
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Old 10-28-2022, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Nothing flawed about it. It works fine for 48 states and the. District of Columbia. The fact you feel it is “flawed” doesn’t make it flawed. You are entitled to your opinion, but it’s no more than your opinion. You aren’t the universal arbiter of flawed and unflawed.
Is the airline a government entity? Which airlines have allowed labor to tax their revenue?

This management has fought with supernatural ferocity to keep us from taxing their profit (simple profit sharing plan) which would only be due when the company is healthy and making a profit, and you think they will let you tax their revenue and pay us whether times are good or catastrophic?!?

All the reasons you think it's a good idea make it a non-starter for them. And their is NO precedent in the airline business, not even close.

When it comes to contract negotiation matters, I'm far from a defeatist but on this one you're nuts.
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Old 11-02-2022, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Is the airline a government entity? Which airlines have allowed labor to tax their revenue?

This management has fought with supernatural ferocity to keep us from taxing their profit (simple profit sharing plan) which would only be due when the company is healthy and making a profit, and you think they will let you tax their revenue and pay us whether times are good or catastrophic?!?

All the reasons you think it's a good idea make it a non-starter for them. And their is NO precedent in the airline business, not even close.

When it comes to contract negotiation matters, I'm far from a defeatist but on this one you're nuts.
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Old 11-02-2022, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
dont knock the 190 till ya have flown it…..much nicer plane to fly than the bus….
Flown both, you're crazy to think the 190 is a much nicer airplane? The steering tiller sucks, the "ram horn" yoke is odd at best, too much artificial feedback, no where to store your roller bag. Extremely loud cabin noise above 280knts, these are just a few of the gripes with that plane.
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