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Old 10-21-2022, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
I'm bidding 34% in base and all my trips are two and one day pairings next month. 79 credit with a lousy 13 days off. I will be in my crashpad 5-6 days next month with three one day turns in a row. One day pairings are last in my bid group, and I'm still way to jr to get a four day. Most of my trips aren't commutable, but I'm lucky because I drive, even if its three hours. So yes, people are commuting to do day turns and pay for a pad or hotel.
Apparently these guys think it's your fault the company has built in so many 1 and 2 day trips.

I have personally seen it on a weekly basis. Friends on reserve are only flying 1, 2, and some 3 day trips. Our pilots will in fact be commuting to do turns. That's how the lines are being built. Also, October is a slow month. Not a lot of open time. Gonna get real ugly. That's fine though, just another shot in the foot of the company increasing attrition.
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Old 10-21-2022, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
sounds like you need to learn how to use pbs better
Got all weekends, Thanksgiving and the day after off, and no redeyes. Those were my priorities. The pairings are dog sh!t, and very few are commutable on both sides. I know how to bid.
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Old 10-21-2022, 06:37 AM
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Bidding 47% in base and I get all 4 day trips with no redeyes. Maybe hire PBS gurus or another company to do your bid because with that seniority you can get almost everything you want.
He's most likely in a base with more 1-2 trips on average.
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Old 10-21-2022, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gripngrab
Bidding 47% in base and I get all 4 day trips with no redeyes. Maybe hire PBS gurus or another company to do your bid because with that seniority you can get almost everything you want.
I got everything off that I wanted and Thanksgiving. The reason I have so few days off is because three of my pairings end just before midnight, and are technically considered ending the next day.
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Old 10-21-2022, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
He's most likely in a base with more 1-2 trips on average.
Yep, all depends on what base you’re in!
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Old 10-21-2022, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
I got everything off that I wanted and Thanksgiving. The reason I have so few days off is because three of my pairings end just before midnight, and are technically considered ending the next day.
What do these 4 days credit?
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Old 10-21-2022, 03:45 PM
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What do these 4 days credit?
Generally 15-17
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Old 10-21-2022, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops
Apparently these guys think it's your fault the company has built in so many 1 and 2 day trips.

I have personally seen it on a weekly basis. Friends on reserve are only flying 1, 2, and some 3 day trips. Our pilots will in fact be commuting to do turns. That's how the lines are being built. Also, October is a slow month. Not a lot of open time. Gonna get real ugly. That's fine though, just another shot in the foot of the company increasing attrition.
Yeah but that's reserve which is a whole different ball game. I'm sure they do get them on reserve when others call out sick, or they get the DH out to fly one leg back. That just comes with the territory of being on reserve though.

Just for context, there are hardly any day turns in CA open time for the remainder of October more than two days out from now. MCO has quite a few but outside of that FLL and DTW each have one (late PM turns), and LAS/ORD/DFW all have a grand total of zero day turns in open time. I'm sure they will lose a few pilots over this, but the sky is hardly falling as most seem to be quite okay picking them up.

Trust me I wish more people hated day turns as much as I hate a 15 hour layover in at the LGA Marriott on a four day will all short layovers.

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Old 10-21-2022, 07:53 PM
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Yeah but that's reserve which is a whole different ball game. I'm sure they do get them on reserve when others call out sick, or they get the DH out to fly one leg back. That just comes with the territory of being on reserve though.

Just for context, there are hardly any day turns in CA open time for the remainder of October more than two days out from now. MCO has quite a few but outside of that FLL and DTW each have one (late PM turns), and LAS/ORD/DFW all have a grand total of zero day turns in open time. I'm sure they will lose a few pilots over this, but the sky is hardly falling as most seem to be quite okay picking them up.

Trust me I wish more people hated day turns as much as I hate a 15 hour layover in at the LGA Marriott on a four day will all short layovers.

well I’m on captain reserve in FLL and I fly just about every day…. Lots of open time trips I have to cover and I’m R3
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Old 10-22-2022, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by onedolla
What do these 4 days credit?
It depends on how the pairing is constructed. If it's a true 4 day, generally 20-25 hours. The later number very rare. Like the other guy said 15-17, if it's a 4 day that really gets in at midnight on the 3rd day.
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