Moving On
07-25-2022, 12:21 PM
#12
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 23
Dont all leave at once (please)
Was hired recently by NK and am coming from one of the regionals where the CA shortage has reached a point where lets just say reserve FOs dont fly. Any possibility of NK reaching a point like this? Seems like there's a lot of movement for various reasons. I know my QoL will be much better at NK regardless but should new hires expect much longer reserve times and possibly a CA shortage at NK moving forward?
07-25-2022, 12:31 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,361
Was hired recently by NK and am coming from one of the regionals where the CA shortage has reached a point where lets just say reserve FOs dont fly. Any possibility of NK reaching a point like this? Seems like there's a lot of movement for various reasons. I know my QoL will be much better at NK regardless but should new hires expect much longer reserve times and possibly a CA shortage at NK moving forward?
07-25-2022, 12:32 PM
#14
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2012
Position: A320 - Left
Posts: 59
5 years on property at NK. Junior CA, eternal reserve and maybe displaced, albeit slowly, from my base. 22 years left to go. I pulled the handle and start elsewhere in a few days.
I figure 7-8 year break even and hope that seniority list movement will mitigate recession concerns moving forward. Hard choice. Didn’t want to leave, but I feel that waiting on the final outcome of whatever spirit will become will make me miss opportunities elsewhere. Maybe I’ll regret that and maybe I won’t. Check back in 2-3 years.
The wife has a good, secure job and has dug her heels into where we live. She’s not moving, I’m not commuting and I don’t want find out I’m a commuter in a few years when the legacies start hitting the tail end of their hiring waves.
A few year’s difference in age or seniority either way would have made the decision for me, but I struggled over this one in my current situation.
Best of luck with whatever you decide.
I figure 7-8 year break even and hope that seniority list movement will mitigate recession concerns moving forward. Hard choice. Didn’t want to leave, but I feel that waiting on the final outcome of whatever spirit will become will make me miss opportunities elsewhere. Maybe I’ll regret that and maybe I won’t. Check back in 2-3 years.
The wife has a good, secure job and has dug her heels into where we live. She’s not moving, I’m not commuting and I don’t want find out I’m a commuter in a few years when the legacies start hitting the tail end of their hiring waves.
A few year’s difference in age or seniority either way would have made the decision for me, but I struggled over this one in my current situation.
Best of luck with whatever you decide.
07-25-2022, 01:03 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: 757/767
Posts: 128
I left early this year after completing 3 years at NK. I only have 14 years left and still think it was the right move. And I’m saying this now commuting to Global Reserve after living in base for Spirit. If you’re just after the money you can upgrade at UAL 2nd year and make already more than a year 12 NK CA. You can also delay your upgrade and stay in the right seat for a better schedule. It’s a very individual choice. Think about it but if you want to do it don’t wait too long…
07-25-2022, 01:28 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 1,025
I know plenty of folks are moving on right now, but I'm look for people who have been here a while and are older who have moved on. I have an offer at a legacy, and I need to make a decision as to whether or not to leave. I've been here about 10 years and have about 15 years left to retirement. If there is anyone else in a similar position any thoughts are appreciated, or anyone who has left how do you feel about your decision?
It is in my best interest for you to move on since you're senior to me, but I think at this point if you don't know what you want then you should stay.
I know it sounds harsh, but I say this as someone who came into adulthood as a very indecisive person. Luckily I had a highly successful mentor who sat me down and helped me get through it.
07-25-2022, 03:59 PM
#17
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 128
I left early this year after completing 3 years at NK. I only have 14 years left and still think it was the right move. And I’m saying this now commuting to Global Reserve after living in base for Spirit. If you’re just after the money you can upgrade at UAL 2nd year and make already more than a year 12 NK CA. You can also delay your upgrade and stay in the right seat for a better schedule. It’s a very individual choice. Think about it but if you want to do it don’t wait too long…
And to the OP, same spot here 15 yrs to go but I'm already sitting in the left seat making money. Did a spreadsheet and UPS is about the only place I'd go to make up for the lost $. Never bet on " you'll upgrade in 2 years" NOBODY has any idea how this industry will shake out.
07-25-2022, 04:48 PM
#18
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: 757/767
Posts: 128
You really think a 2nd yr CA at United is making more than our 12yr guys. Hourly rates aren't everything.
And to the OP, same spot here 15 yrs to go but I'm already sitting in the left seat making money. Did a spreadsheet and UPS is about the only place I'd go to make up for the lost $. Never bet on " you'll upgrade in 2 years" NOBODY has any idea how this industry will shake out.
And to the OP, same spot here 15 yrs to go but I'm already sitting in the left seat making money. Did a spreadsheet and UPS is about the only place I'd go to make up for the lost $. Never bet on " you'll upgrade in 2 years" NOBODY has any idea how this industry will shake out.
Of course I know that hourly rates are not everything and that a12 year NK CA makes a lot of money. My point was that if you’re after the money it’s not too long until you have at least a similar salary. Not talking about QOL here.
I have a friend who is a 10 year NK CA with 20 years left and he’s making the move too. Everyone’s situation is different. I can fully understand if you want to stay at NK. I liked it there too a lot. It’s not easy to start over but in my view still worth given all the options you have at a legacy.
07-25-2022, 05:27 PM
#19
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 417
You really think a 2nd yr CA at United is making more than our 12yr guys. Hourly rates aren't everything.
And to the OP, same spot here 15 yrs to go but I'm already sitting in the left seat making money. Did a spreadsheet and UPS is about the only place I'd go to make up for the lost $. Never bet on " you'll upgrade in 2 years" NOBODY has any idea how this industry will shake out.
And to the OP, same spot here 15 yrs to go but I'm already sitting in the left seat making money. Did a spreadsheet and UPS is about the only place I'd go to make up for the lost $. Never bet on " you'll upgrade in 2 years" NOBODY has any idea how this industry will shake out.
07-25-2022, 05:35 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 30
Of course I know that hourly rates are not everything and that a12 year NK CA makes a lot of money. My point was that if you’re after the money it’s not too long until you have at least a similar salary. Not talking about QOL here.
I have a friend who is a 10 year NK CA with 20 years left and he’s making the move too. Everyone’s situation is different. I can fully understand if you want to stay at NK. I liked it there too a lot. It’s not easy to start over but in my view still worth given all the options you have at a legacy.
I have a friend who is a 10 year NK CA with 20 years left and he’s making the move too. Everyone’s situation is different. I can fully understand if you want to stay at NK. I liked it there too a lot. It’s not easy to start over but in my view still worth given all the options you have at a legacy.
Thanks, if I was younger for sure I would go but with only about 15 years left and I’ve been here ten it’s hard to justify. I’ve been furloughed so I know there are no guarantees for anything including upgrades. My wife has crunched the numbers as well, the hard thing to put a number on is QOL. Sure in theory in a few years if I move I could make as much as I am now, but being 50 in a crash pad isn’t seeming fun anymore. Eventually I could get based back where we live but for how long is my QOL going to take a hit, and at my age is it worth taking a QOL hit.
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