Sprontier, Please!
04-09-2022, 02:24 PM
#101
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,203
Seems like all they did was kneecap a competitor at a huge cost.
04-09-2022, 02:44 PM
#102
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
For extra credit, does anyone consider the AS-VX merger to be successful? It seems that all AS got (or at least kept) was the senior VX CAs. The VX aircraft are mostly gone and the remaining VX aircraft will likely be gone by 2023. The JFK base was closed and east coast slots and gates sold, leased. Or abandoned. And they continue to bleed FOs to the legacies.
Seems like all they did was kneecap a competitor at a huge cost.
Seems like all they did was kneecap a competitor at a huge cost.
04-09-2022, 02:49 PM
#103
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 993
For extra credit, does anyone consider the AS-VX merger to be successful? It seems that all AS got (or at least kept) was the senior VX CAs. The VX aircraft are mostly gone and the remaining VX aircraft will likely be gone by 2023. The JFK base was closed and east coast slots and gates sold, leased. Or abandoned. And they continue to bleed FOs to the legacies.
Seems like all they did was kneecap a competitor at a huge cost.
Seems like all they did was kneecap a competitor at a huge cost.
04-09-2022, 03:52 PM
#104
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
For extra credit, does anyone consider the AS-VX merger to be successful? It seems that all AS got (or at least kept) was the senior VX CAs. The VX aircraft are mostly gone and the remaining VX aircraft will likely be gone by 2023. The JFK base was closed and east coast slots and gates sold, leased. Or abandoned. And they continue to bleed FOs to the legacies.
Seems like all they did was kneecap a competitor at a huge cost.
Seems like all they did was kneecap a competitor at a huge cost.
04-09-2022, 09:11 PM
#106
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,933
Yeah, I'd agree. I was forced to move from NJ to CA when the NYC base closed. Now I drive to LAX. Since I had CAs junior to me on the west coast, when the base closed I was able to displace into a Bus CA seat at LA. And as Busses were being parked, I got displaced again into Guppy CA at LA. Of course I wish it would have been VX + B6. All the Buses would still be around and we would have maximized the route network and been a nice, strong national carrier. All things considered, not bad. Could have been worse (flown with many guys from Aloha, ATA, Skybus, etc) who were basically forced to start over. Nor did we get Airtran'ed.
04-09-2022, 09:18 PM
#107
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,933
Here is the SLI decision for AS/VX for those that asked...
https://pdfhost.io/v/2ESswD.yk_arbitrationaward
04-10-2022, 10:55 AM
#110
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 274
Median gain for JetBlue pilot is 6.82%, Median loss for Spirit Pilot is 10.4% - that is a 17.2% Spread
Extreme inequality - October 2011 DOH at both airlines, Spirit pilot loses 18% while JetBlue pilot gains 11.9% - Thats a 30% spread
2127 (73%) Spirit pilots lose more than 5%, while not a single one gains more than 2%
2865 (60%) JetBlue pilots gain more than 5%, while not a single one loses more than 1.1%
Whoa Nelly!
Read ALPA section 45 on SLI. It is specifically intended to not favor one group vs the other. I think the SLI will be much closer to relative seniority than DOH
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