MrIncredible

None the past few classes

FreshWater

Interesting. Not surprising. G4 plans and hopes for about the same; 20 a month. There’s no pool and we’re averaging about 30% no shows.

pacificapt

We are running classes of 20 each Monday.

AncientAge

Dang, weekly classes and I couldn’t get a call back.

FreshWater

Ancient have you moved on to someplace different? If not, and are looking for a quick resume builder maybe put in an app at G4. We have no training contract, a free 320 type, then bounce.

AncientAge

I was looking at F9, NK, and G4. I have a class date at G4 in the next month. If there’s no training contract I may keep my apps up to date.

symbian simian

Why only those? We have a lot of FOs bailing from NK to the legacies in their first year, so the legacies are fishing from the the same pool.

AncientAge

I was sold on the option of being home more with the kids while they are younger and still want me home. F9 I saw was doing more day trips and that’s what G4 sells people on. To be honest you’re right though. I should expand my options.

symbian simian

I mean, you will only be home more if you live in base. Ask about 300 NK ORD pilots how those day trips are looking now... Bases will come and go, F9 just closed ORD, we halved it, same can happen in any spot. Would rather work for a place were I make enough so I don't have to work as often.

FreshWater

I know G4 management told you the home every night sales pitch, in that is all they have. You will be initially assigned one of the small Midwest bases, i.e. Flint, Des Moines etc. From there I don’t know. Problem is micro bases constitute 20 mini airlines unto themselves. Seniority is stagnated at almost all current existing bases.

Real problem is they can’t staff these small bases with F/As either. Combine this with the pilot recruiting/retention problem it's becoming obvious the 100+ small base strategy will fall apart. Management grossly underestimated what they are willing to pay for this to work, i.e. industry leading contract. They are going to make some big changes after April. Probably going to shift to more multi-day trips to cover these small bases. So, you most likely will not be home every night.

It will be a nightmare. G4 is not remotely equipped to logistically handle significant amounts of over nighting aircraft and crews. Come and see for yourself. Like I said we don’t have a training contract at G4.