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Old 04-11-2022, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
We will agree to completely disagree with this.

The MEC isn’t tasked with telling the company how to run their business, and that was never suggested. The MEC is tasked to ensure that pilots CAN talk to a scheduler when needed, CAN get a hotel when needed, remind management that IROP isn’t a word that applies to pilots and out CBA. The MEC CAN file class grievances for lack or notification for cancellations. Or how about accountability when pilots are getting rescheduled at hubs because schedulers are choosing to circumvent the assignment methodology outlined in the CBA. FAs are all being offered 200% for trips pickups. Is that something that was asked from management from pilots? Mentioned? Has the 200% to “fly your trip” been discussed since that seemed to save a larger meltdown in January? Management isn’t saying a word about what’s going on, I would at least like to know if the MEC is at least trying to find out

And if management is telling them nothing, that in itself is something that needs to be communicated to the pilots.

You really think this is simply management doing their job and the MEC just hanging back to enforce the CBA? My man, the contract is getting violated every few minutes.
Now you get why I think this place ( mgmt ) is a trash fire. I mean wtf. How many Delta or united flights have I been dh'd on. Or the call from crew scheduling asking where I am??? I'm just waiting for a crew member to get fecked in an airport out of some pax rage. J Miller will probably blame atc for it
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Old 04-11-2022, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
We Or how about accountability when pilots are getting rescheduled at hubs because schedulers are choosing to circumvent the assignment methodology outlined in the CBA.?

My man, the contract is getting violated every few minutes.
Oh… so suddenly this is an issue for you when it’s an IROP, but if someone checks the premium assignment reports for these violations they need to “get a life”

Got it.
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Old 04-11-2022, 03:01 PM
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Has anyone seen the attrition number for March? Did I miss it or did the Union never send them out?


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Old 04-11-2022, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
Has anyone seen the attrition number for March? Did I miss it or did the Union never send them out?


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Has not been officially released but the word is net 35 pilots for the month
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Old 04-11-2022, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
Oh… so suddenly this is an issue for you when it’s an IROP, but if someone checks the premium assignment reports for these violations they need to “get a life”

Got it.
Frontier has a full time union baby sitter in the scheduling room to oversee the assignments are being done properly. Thats how it should be done, not by pilots having to audit the company call lists like an XY list bounty hunter. If you find you were skipped, great, you file an NCC and maybe win. But that doesnt change anything about how the company is doing it the other 99.99% All this does is reaffirm what I was saying, why are pilots having to do this alone and not as a "unionized" effort by the....union?

We have union members out on full time leave, 90 hours per person. Thats a lot of money. How much would it cost to hire a data entry analyst to hit up the same XY lists that you do, but for the entire list? It would be a lot cheaper than the 90 hours for our SecTreas who is on full time leave from last I heard And when discrepancies are found, the MEC files a class grievance for ALL pilots that have been screwed, not just those that what to cozy up to the XY list at night.
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Old 04-12-2022, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Frontier has a full time union baby sitter in the scheduling room to oversee the assignments are being done properly. Thats how it should be done, not by pilots having to audit the company call lists like an XY list bounty hunter. If you find you were skipped, great, you file an NCC and maybe win. But that doesnt change anything about how the company is doing it the other 99.99% All this does is reaffirm what I was saying, why are pilots having to do this alone and not as a "unionized" effort by the....union?

We have union members out on full time leave, 90 hours per person. Thats a lot of money. How much would it cost to hire a data entry analyst to hit up the same XY lists that you do, but for the entire list? It would be a lot cheaper than the 90 hours for our SecTreas who is on full time leave from last I heard And when discrepancies are found, the MEC files a class grievance for ALL pilots that have been screwed, not just those that what to cozy up to the XY list at night.
Then either volunteer for that position, or bring all your brilliant ideas to an LEC meeting.

The difference between you and me is I actually hold the company accountable for violating the contract, yes it takes a few minutes out of my day once in a while, but that is still more than you’re doing.

Will it stop/prevent future infractions? No.. but what finger have you lifted other than the ones to type out your replies here.
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Old 04-12-2022, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
Then either volunteer for that position, or bring all your brilliant ideas to an LEC meeting.

The difference between you and me is I actually hold the company accountable for violating the contract, yes it takes a few minutes out of my day once in a while, but that is still more than you’re doing.

Will it stop/prevent future infractions? No.. but what finger have you lifted other than the ones to type out your replies here.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:05 PM
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Is the company still in a Level 3 IROP?
Last update from Miller was 10 days ago, and nothing from this union…….
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes
Is the company still in a Level 3 IROP?
Last update from Miller was 10 days ago, and nothing from this union…….
also zero from the Union on the company playing chicken with pilots regarding displacements.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes
Is the company still in a Level 3 IROP?
Last update from Miller was 10 days ago, and nothing from this union…….
Looks like we’ve canceled 3 today so I’m cautiously thinking they may have regained control. Tomorrow’s a new day though and there’s a slight chance of a shower in Orlando so don’t hold your breath!
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