IROP
04-02-2022, 03:21 PM
#91
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 1,025
While I won't downplay the lack of operational support compared to other airlines, Florida does absolutely suck from an ATC perspective. It is constantly cut in half by thunderstorms and you can't go west (for the most part) because of military airspace and can't go too far east over the Atlantic. Thus insane congestion causing stupid lengthy delays that other areas of the country with storms are able to recover from much quicker because they can depart in every direction. Is what it is, company could do better but having the "fortress" be in the worst possible location atc/weather wise is a combo for failure.
Can't leave Florida because it is a cash cow.
Can't leave Florida because it is a cash cow.
04-02-2022, 03:59 PM
#92
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 551
No pilot has actually been displaced yet, just because the bid results are (almost) published doesn’t have any affect on this IROP. I am not saying the rebasing will be better or worse strategically for operations, maybe it will maybe it won’t. We don’t have any data or post reduction IROP to determine that yet. You obviously have your opinion on that, based on your feelings.
Yes it negatively impacts a big part of the pilot group, yes that is a bad thing. Fortunately for those it impacts, it comes at a time of unprecedented hiring and options.
04-02-2022, 04:51 PM
#93
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 465
Most likely we, the pilots, will be blamed again like they’ve construed on every past IROP. Weather and crew, that’s what we will hear.
Schedulers working from home and can’t make a decision on their own without patching in a supervisor, record attrition(which according to them isn’t an issue) poor IT.. the list goes on and on. Nobody got their pee pee slapped for last august. Someone should’ve been fired over that whole mess. But hey, it’s status quo here at NK. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Schedulers working from home and can’t make a decision on their own without patching in a supervisor, record attrition(which according to them isn’t an issue) poor IT.. the list goes on and on. Nobody got their pee pee slapped for last august. Someone should’ve been fired over that whole mess. But hey, it’s status quo here at NK. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
04-02-2022, 05:25 PM
#94
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
Most likely we, the pilots, will be blamed again like they’ve construed on every past IROP. Weather and crew, that’s what we will hear.
Schedulers working from home and can’t make a decision on their own without patching in a supervisor, record attrition(which according to them isn’t an issue) poor IT.. the list goes on and on. Nobody got their pee pee slapped for last august. Someone should’ve been fired over that whole mess. But hey, it’s status quo here at NK. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Schedulers working from home and can’t make a decision on their own without patching in a supervisor, record attrition(which according to them isn’t an issue) poor IT.. the list goes on and on. Nobody got their pee pee slapped for last august. Someone should’ve been fired over that whole mess. But hey, it’s status quo here at NK. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
04-02-2022, 06:06 PM
#95
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 211
Yes it will. Grids will be all red. No drops. But In aviation and airline life, it’s like the weather, just wait a little while and it will change. Nothing in this industry stays the same forever. You can either sit tight with your seatbelt fastened or jump ship to to places that are hiring for pure attrition and not growth. This industry is a gamble and I’m glad I am at the twilight of my career.
04-02-2022, 06:19 PM
#96
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 106
I hope that every flight attendant, pilot, whoever that got kicked out of their hotel rooms because Spirit has lost control of the operation find a comfortable chair in the terminals right in front of the TSA lines and get a good night’s sleep. Maybe the traveling public will wake them up in the morning. Also, where’s the pack your patience email from ALPA?
04-03-2022, 09:25 AM
#97
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 220
Well then you have this kind of stuff- yesterday I get to the plane and an ACARS message states that we were missing an FA. So I go to the galley and I can here hold music for CS on the phones of two other FAs (Bing bing bong.... Bong bing bong). They informed us they had been on hold for over 40 minutes each. We asked why they were on hold and they said to ask CS what they were going to do about the missing FA. We told them about the message. They waited on hold until they got to an hour then they hung up.
If this is the mentality of flight attendants I wonder if that's not the reason for unnecessary hold times. They were on hold with CS for no other reason but to be on hold with CS. When do we get our own line?
If this is the mentality of flight attendants I wonder if that's not the reason for unnecessary hold times. They were on hold with CS for no other reason but to be on hold with CS. When do we get our own line?
04-03-2022, 09:27 AM
#98
CA-ORD
Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 175
I hope that every flight attendant, pilot, whoever that got kicked out of their hotel rooms because Spirit has lost control of the operation find a comfortable chair in the terminals right in front of the TSA lines and get a good night’s sleep. Maybe the traveling public will wake them up in the morning. Also, where’s the pack your patience email from ALPA?
These pilots are instead sitting on the airport benches, sharing their life story about their day with their base chat group. Like the rest of the group chat cares. That's pretty much all us ORD guys have read the last few days is the whine fest from a few who have had miserable experiences on the road the last few days.
Maybe they need to carry a paper book with them called a diary and write in there. The "play by play" of their ****ty day is just what every other pilot wants to read while they sit at home, pass up the XY master calls, and enjoy a cup of coffee lol.
04-03-2022, 09:40 AM
#99
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
Well then you have this kind of stuff- yesterday I get to the plane and an ACARS message states that we were missing an FA. So I go to the galley and I can here hold music for CS on the phones of two other FAs (Bing bing bong.... Bong bing bong). They informed us they had been on hold for over 40 minutes each. We asked why they were on hold and they said to ask CS what they were going to do about the missing FA. We told them about the message. They waited on hold until they got to an hour then they hung up.
If this is the mentality of flight attendants I wonder if that's not the reason for unnecessary hold times. They were on hold with CS for no other reason but to be on hold with CS. When do we get our own line?
If this is the mentality of flight attendants I wonder if that's not the reason for unnecessary hold times. They were on hold with CS for no other reason but to be on hold with CS. When do we get our own line?
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