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02-18-2022, 03:13 PM

#161

IamEssential

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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK

What rumor is this? Is this something Spirit specific, or the “Frontier closed ORD so they’re going to close it for spirit after the merger too.” rumor?

Frontier closed ORD for a reason and Spirit is experiencing those exact same issues. ORD won't close as a base but......

02-18-2022, 04:05 PM

#162

Ddts

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Originally Posted by IamEssential

Frontier closed ORD for a reason and Spirit is experiencing those exact same issues. ORD won't close as a base but......

what issues?

02-18-2022, 04:18 PM

#163

JulesWinfield

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Originally Posted by Ddts

what issues?

Not enough gates to handle expanded flying.

02-19-2022, 04:13 AM

#164

DumboDrop

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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

Not enough gates to handle expanded flying.

Wasn't a problem for SWA to come join us on T5.

02-20-2022, 08:31 AM

#165

Excargodog

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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

Not enough gates to handle expanded flying.

The disappearance of the regionals ought to solve that one…

02-20-2022, 08:49 AM

#166

IamEssential

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

The disappearance of the regionals ought to solve that one…

Regionals don’t own gates so not sure how that would help.

02-20-2022, 09:15 AM

#167

Excargodog

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Originally Posted by IamEssential

Regionals don’t own gates so not sure how that would help.

Without occupants, gates get reassigned. Vacant gates are an opportunity and there will soon be a lot more of them.

02-20-2022, 09:34 AM

#168

CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Without occupants, gates get reassigned. Vacant gates are an opportunity and there will soon be a lot more of them.

Not that simple. If those regional gates are occupied by AA or UAL regionals, don’t think for a minute the ORD airport authority will hand them over to Spirit, against the wishes of AA and UAL

Look at DFW, the gates used to be Airways. Airways merges with AA and a week later, AA is stacking regionals at those gates. DFW airport knows where their “bread is buttered,” and so does ORD

02-20-2022, 09:40 AM

#169

Meep

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Originally Posted by IamEssential

That combined with the decrease in upgrades is certainly putting a dent on those times coming down post-COVID.

Pretty sure the upgrade time is going up and management is baffled as to why people are leaving.

02-20-2022, 09:40 AM

#170

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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

Except the regionals are dying. And even if the legacies pick up that flying with A220s, they’ll use less gates than legions of 50 seaters. And the gates won’t sit empty long if others can use them.