Meet the Chiefs and hiring process
03-24-2022, 06:18 PM
#631
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Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 106
I don't know who quoted you this but when I came here 5 years ago my previous airline informed me that i do not need to make any payment for cobra to be covered and furthermore IF I need to utilize the benefit I had the ability to back pay each of the 3 months if I needed to make a claim. This was pre Covid
03-24-2022, 09:08 PM
#632
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,788
so are you still supporting the idea that as professionals flying for a major airline, responsible for hundreds of not thousands of lives a week, that we shouldn’t have health care from day one?
03-25-2022, 02:25 AM
#633
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 211
Good for you. Average cost of cobra is between $400-$700 per person so believe it or not, just because you had one experience doesn’t mean others will have the same. It’s shocking I know, but we are all different.
so are you still supporting the idea that as professionals flying for a major airline, responsible for hundreds of not thousands of lives a week, that we shouldn’t have health care from day one?
so are you still supporting the idea that as professionals flying for a major airline, responsible for hundreds of not thousands of lives a week, that we shouldn’t have health care from day one?
You know what is great right now? Everyone has a choice. So why do people complain about first year pay and healthcare here when they can go someplace else that has better pay and healthcare from day one? You have 60 days to activate Cobra from your previous employer. It’s retroactive.
It’s like buying a LADA and then complaining about what a pos it is even though you already knew before buying it that it was a pos.
Market forces will dictate better pay and benefits for year one employees. If not, this company won’t be able to staff.
03-25-2022, 04:13 AM
#634
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 290
Good for you. Average cost of cobra is between $400-$700 per person so believe it or not, just because you had one experience doesn’t mean others will have the same. It’s shocking I know, but we are all different.
so are you still supporting the idea that as professionals flying for a major airline, responsible for hundreds of not thousands of lives a week, that we shouldn’t have health care from day one?
so are you still supporting the idea that as professionals flying for a major airline, responsible for hundreds of not thousands of lives a week, that we shouldn’t have health care from day one?
Let me guess. You've got your app in with AA now. 🤣
03-25-2022, 04:15 AM
#635
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
You know what is great right now? Everyone has a choice. So why do people complain about first year pay and healthcare here when they can go someplace else that has better pay and healthcare from day one? You have 60 days to activate Cobra from your previous employer. It’s retroactive.
It’s like buying a LADA and then complaining about what a pos it is even though you already knew before buying it that it was a pos.
Market forces will dictate better pay and benefits for year one employees. If not, this company won’t be able to staff.
It’s like buying a LADA and then complaining about what a pos it is even though you already knew before buying it that it was a pos.
Market forces will dictate better pay and benefits for year one employees. If not, this company won’t be able to staff.
03-25-2022, 06:06 AM
#636
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,788
You know what is great right now? Everyone has a choice. So why do people complain about first year pay and healthcare here when they can go someplace else that has better pay and healthcare from day one? You have 60 days to activate Cobra from your previous employer. It’s retroactive.
It’s like buying a LADA and then complaining about what a pos it is even though you already knew before buying it that it was a pos.
Market forces will dictate better pay and benefits for year one employees. If not, this company won’t be able to staff.
It’s like buying a LADA and then complaining about what a pos it is even though you already knew before buying it that it was a pos.
Market forces will dictate better pay and benefits for year one employees. If not, this company won’t be able to staff.
So, you "graduate" from Envoy to here telling everyone how great it is and are now in the same pattern of bashing your company as you were at Envoy. I doubt you'll ever be happy working at an airline as a pilot. You might consider another line of work.
Let me guess. You've got your app in with AA now. 🤣
Let me guess. You've got your app in with AA now. 🤣
See above.
03-25-2022, 06:20 AM
#637
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,203
This isn’t some theoretical. If you are looking at becoming the 5th largest airline in the country and continuing the growth that the planes on order require, Sprontier will have enough first year people that inevitably someone is going to be financially devastated by the insurance thing alone. Setting aside such issues as pilot group unity and responsibilities of a union to look after ALL pilots covered by the CBA, what’s your plan for when some guy or gal in IOEs kid gets leukemia? To pass the friggin’ hat?
03-25-2022, 06:49 AM
#638
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,168
Probably for the same reason that the senior pilots want THEIR pay and QOL upgraded at the next contract. Or would you be content to have the upcoming JCBA just freeze current pay and policies? Do you regard poor first year pay and insurance coverage as some sort of a hazing ritual or what? if so, that’s sort of sick..
This isn’t some theoretical. If you are looking at becoming the 5th largest airline in the country and continuing the growth that the planes on order require, Sprontier will have enough first year people that inevitably someone is going to be financially devastated by the insurance thing alone. Setting aside such issues as pilot group unity and responsibilities of a union to look after ALL pilots covered by the CBA, what’s your plan for when some guy or gal in IOEs kid gets leukemia? To pass the friggin’ hat?
This isn’t some theoretical. If you are looking at becoming the 5th largest airline in the country and continuing the growth that the planes on order require, Sprontier will have enough first year people that inevitably someone is going to be financially devastated by the insurance thing alone. Setting aside such issues as pilot group unity and responsibilities of a union to look after ALL pilots covered by the CBA, what’s your plan for when some guy or gal in IOEs kid gets leukemia? To pass the friggin’ hat?
The baseline for first year is now $75, insurance day one, and working on hotels as well speak. I know some don’t agree with the upward movement of first year. It’s pretty simple. If nk comes and gives you more $ across the board and f9 doesn’t before a jcba then your correct. If they don’t then it was a good move. We’ll see.
