Vaccine mandate Spirit?
#51
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More than likely what’s going on is carriers are gathering data on vaccinations to negotiate insurance premiums before open enrollment. Once they have the agreed upon numbers $ will dictate negotiations with Alpa. That way your not guessing on costs in those negotiations. Everyone has different language handcuffing managements ability to raise insurance premium costs as well as covered benefits so not every policy will look the same.
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#52
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And I don’t think it gets tossed, my opinion
#53
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But I also truly don’t think you should be forced to take it if you don’t want to. But honest question. What do you suppose the company does if our government doesn’t mandate this yet other countries do and half the pilot group now can’t fly down to the Caribbean or South America?
#54
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Myocarditis study in pfizer and moderna shows incidence is 1 in 1,000. Median age 33.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....13.21262182v1
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...182v1.full.pdf
There were 15,997 doses of Moderna vaccine, and 16,382 doses of Pfizer vaccine administered over the
study period, for a total of 32,379 doses. Note that these numbers represent a mixture of first and
second doses. Therefore, if our cohort captured all cases in the Ottawa area, then the incidence of
myocarditis would be 0.1% of all vaccine doses (32 cases/32,379 doses x 100), or 10 cases of myocarditis
for every 10,000 doses of vaccine.
"There was no difference in 5-year survival rate between the myocarditis and idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy groups (56% vs. 54%, respectively). "
5 year survival rate of about 50%. Will Spirit cover your living expenses when you lose your medical?
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....13.21262182v1
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...182v1.full.pdf
There were 15,997 doses of Moderna vaccine, and 16,382 doses of Pfizer vaccine administered over the
study period, for a total of 32,379 doses. Note that these numbers represent a mixture of first and
second doses. Therefore, if our cohort captured all cases in the Ottawa area, then the incidence of
myocarditis would be 0.1% of all vaccine doses (32 cases/32,379 doses x 100), or 10 cases of myocarditis
for every 10,000 doses of vaccine.
"There was no difference in 5-year survival rate between the myocarditis and idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy groups (56% vs. 54%, respectively). "
5 year survival rate of about 50%. Will Spirit cover your living expenses when you lose your medical?
#55
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Spirit might even even offer some money. Or some of Uncle Sugar’s money anyway.
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Has any vaccine ever had long term side effects that don’t manifest themselves in the very short term. Meaning, having data over the next five years most likely won’t change what we already know about covid vaccine side effects.
The question about spirit being on the hook for earnings should you lose your medical from a vaccine they mandate is a good one.
Although long term side effects from covid concerned me more with my medical which is why I got the vaccine. The FAA is already making pilots jump through hoops if they were hospitalized with covid.
The question about spirit being on the hook for earnings should you lose your medical from a vaccine they mandate is a good one.
Although long term side effects from covid concerned me more with my medical which is why I got the vaccine. The FAA is already making pilots jump through hoops if they were hospitalized with covid.
#58
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Has any vaccine ever had long term side effects that don’t manifest themselves in the very short term. Meaning, having data over the next five years most likely won’t change what we already know about covid vaccine side effects.
The question about spirit being on the hook for earnings should you lose your medical from a vaccine they mandate is a good one.
Although long term side effects from covid concerned me more with my medical which is why I got the vaccine. The FAA is already making pilots jump through hoops if they were hospitalized with covid.
The question about spirit being on the hook for earnings should you lose your medical from a vaccine they mandate is a good one.
Although long term side effects from covid concerned me more with my medical which is why I got the vaccine. The FAA is already making pilots jump through hoops if they were hospitalized with covid.
#59
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I don't think it will get tossed either after all Delta already mandates the yellow fever vaccine and people are lining up to get hired there, but what I have learned is there should be a lot less competition for Delta as it seems a lot of pilots are against mandatory vaccines.
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