Vaccine mandate Spirit?
#21
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 8
I'd suggest doing your own research instead of posting links to obviously biased fake news sources. Either way, I don't believe the federal government should be mandating that businesses force people to get vaccinated. That's where I draw the line.
If a business wants to make that decision on their own, fine. When the government steps in, that's where I have an issue.
If a business wants to make that decision on their own, fine. When the government steps in, that's where I have an issue.
Yup, Lawsuits are already beginning... this should be an open and closed case. Based on recent Federal court rulings that sided with private companies over the CDC overstepping their boundaries, i give it a few months before we see rulings that block this government mandate.
#22
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 93
I'd suggest doing your own research instead of posting links to obviously biased fake news sources. Either way, I don't believe the federal government should be mandating that businesses force people to get vaccinated. That's where I draw the line.
If a business wants to make that decision on their own, fine. When the government steps in, that's where I have an issue.
If a business wants to make that decision on their own, fine. When the government steps in, that's where I have an issue.
Although I am glad you are on the side of not mandating forced vaccines.
Here's what may be coming next. And if you click on the link it is Fauci himself on video saying what is being considered.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/...-true-tyranny/
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 449
That's the nature of "at will employment", a company can terminate you for any reason at any time unless the reason is proven to be that it was for your race, age, gender, or sexual orientation.
Union contracts complicate that a little, but most likely anyone who refuses to get vaccinated or exercises their right to not disclose their status will be placed on unpaid medical leave. This is what United is already doing, and I can't imagine they'd be doing it if their army of lawyers weren't sure it was legal.
Union contracts complicate that a little, but most likely anyone who refuses to get vaccinated or exercises their right to not disclose their status will be placed on unpaid medical leave. This is what United is already doing, and I can't imagine they'd be doing it if their army of lawyers weren't sure it was legal.
#25
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 16
Forcing someone to take a shot for a virus with a 99%+ survival rate, at the risk of your job, is unethical.
The final medical decision for any injection should be up to the individual, without coercion.
These shots are clearly not working, yet the Biden administration is trying to double down on failure. Look at Israel. Or the UK. Over 80% vaxxed, yet their cases are exploding:
https://www.newstarget.com/2021-08-2...ed-people.html
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/dr...s-are-failing/
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/02/no-...-covid-spikes/
There are so many with adverse reactions:
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/17/har...r-vaccination/
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/15/in-...n-by-covid-19/
The shot doesn't prevent infection, or transmission. The data for the US is hard to come by since the CDC stopped tracking breakthrough infections:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...booster-shots/
Treatments are available that work:
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/17/abs...er-propaganda/
Lastly, why doesn't anyone talk about natural immunity?
https://saraacarter.com/covid-19-nat...arch-suggests/
The final medical decision for any injection should be up to the individual, without coercion.
These shots are clearly not working, yet the Biden administration is trying to double down on failure. Look at Israel. Or the UK. Over 80% vaxxed, yet their cases are exploding:
https://www.newstarget.com/2021-08-2...ed-people.html
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/dr...s-are-failing/
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/02/no-...-covid-spikes/
There are so many with adverse reactions:
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/17/har...r-vaccination/
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/15/in-...n-by-covid-19/
The shot doesn't prevent infection, or transmission. The data for the US is hard to come by since the CDC stopped tracking breakthrough infections:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...booster-shots/
Treatments are available that work:
https://noqreport.com/2021/09/17/abs...er-propaganda/
Lastly, why doesn't anyone talk about natural immunity?
https://saraacarter.com/covid-19-nat...arch-suggests/
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 448
Depends on what you call "mainstream". Please don't come back with CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, etc. because those sources has swung far more to the left the Fox News ever did to the right. I mean they took what Fox News did and went full reta@#. All because the Orange man called them a bad name. boohoo. However I think we can all agree that no matter how crass Donald was, Biden's presidency so far has been an unmitigated disaster and makes Trump look like Abraham Lincoln. The "anybody but Trump" strategy has backfired into America's face.
#27
Depends on what you call "mainstream". Please don't come back with CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, etc. because those sources has swung far more to the left the Fox News ever did to the right. I mean they took what Fox News did and went full reta@#. All because the Orange man called them a bad name. boohoo. However I think we can all agree that no matter how crass Donald was, Biden's presidency so far has been an unmitigated disaster and makes Trump look like Abraham Lincoln. The "anybody but Trump" strategy has backfired into America's face.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...9-vaccine-safe
I’d trust university publications over an opinion based news source with an obvious agenda.
#28
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 1,025
We were all having a chat about the company leaking data for others to see, not whether or not they have access to it.
#29
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,796
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...9-vaccine-safe
I’d trust university publications over an opinion based news source with an obvious agenda.
I’d trust university publications over an opinion based news source with an obvious agenda.
And I laugh at anyone calling a conservative source not mainstream. If somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the country seek a source for information it is absolutely mainstream.
Its down to this. Both sides staring at the other and yelling I don’t trust your numbers.
Here are the numbers you cant refute. There is absolutely no information about possible side effects for these vaccines past about a year. Not a single living soul has any idea what they will be 5 years down the road. Or 10.
The union will bend over and take it on this. There are already reps publicly salivating over he possible payout. The company already knows what it wants to do and the union already know how it will respond. This survey is nothing more than a trial balloon and means to start floating the idea.
#30
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
Ah yes, those universities. Bastions of unbiased, agendaless thought and research.
And I laugh at anyone calling a conservative source not mainstream. If somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the country seek a source for information it is absolutely mainstream.
Its down to this. Both sides staring at the other and yelling I don’t trust your numbers.
Here are the numbers you cant refute. There is absolutely no information about possible side effects for these vaccines past about a year. Not a single living soul has any idea what they will be 5 years down the road. Or 10.
The union will bend over and take it on this. There are already reps publicly salivating over he possible payout. The company already knows what it wants to do and the union already know how it will respond. This survey is nothing more than a trial balloon and means to start floating the idea.
And I laugh at anyone calling a conservative source not mainstream. If somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the country seek a source for information it is absolutely mainstream.
Its down to this. Both sides staring at the other and yelling I don’t trust your numbers.
Here are the numbers you cant refute. There is absolutely no information about possible side effects for these vaccines past about a year. Not a single living soul has any idea what they will be 5 years down the road. Or 10.
The union will bend over and take it on this. There are already reps publicly salivating over he possible payout. The company already knows what it wants to do and the union already know how it will respond. This survey is nothing more than a trial balloon and means to start floating the idea.
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