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08-27-2021, 05:51 PM
#31
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Invest in red paint for safety area and 12’ mirrors mounted at the nose, we can park ourselves. If I can get my car wheel on the car wash track using an overhead mirror, I sure as heck can park a plane with a mirror
08-27-2021, 05:53 PM
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Or pulling into a tight gate, EWR and PHL stand out to me, and they’re not looking at the wings.
08-27-2021, 06:59 PM
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I personally like having someone else with the liability of obstruction clearance. Looking or not you can always say the safety area was clear (if it was) and you had three marshallers guiding you
Still need people to throw the bags anyway
Still need people to throw the bags anyway
08-27-2021, 07:04 PM
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Just saw a sign today where I live offering $18 an hour to work at a Sheetz gas station and it said they offered medical benefits. If I was given the choice of throwing bags in the Florida heat or sitting in an air conditioned gas station and ringing up snacks and cigarettes I’d probably chose the later.
I also think they’re dealing with a sort of snowball effect with the lack of under wing crew that do show up working twice as hard making it more likely they call off or just quit all together.
Either way Spirit and other businesses will have to adjust to this by increasing pay and benefits.
I also think they’re dealing with a sort of snowball effect with the lack of under wing crew that do show up working twice as hard making it more likely they call off or just quit all together.
Either way Spirit and other businesses will have to adjust to this by increasing pay and benefits.
They need to adapt and I’m not sure why they cannot figure that out.
08-27-2021, 07:11 PM
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What I have seen in affluent suburbs north of Dallas is difficulty finding people wanting to work for $15 / hour. We have seen a big increase in population.
High schoolers do not want to work for such a low wage (partly that their six figure earning parents having enough money for the family. They can buy their kids a car.)
In the recent past, supplemental unemployment payments and the eviction moratorium has made it easier for those without a job to get by.
Of course, pre-Covid, we had an unemployment rate of sub 2%.
Just perspective in another booming area, where people have been moving.
High schoolers do not want to work for such a low wage (partly that their six figure earning parents having enough money for the family. They can buy their kids a car.)
In the recent past, supplemental unemployment payments and the eviction moratorium has made it easier for those without a job to get by.
Of course, pre-Covid, we had an unemployment rate of sub 2%.
Just perspective in another booming area, where people have been moving.
Kids are involved in too much crap now that their parents say they don’t have time to work or their job is to get good grades or be excellent at sports. GMAFB.
I’ve also heard it’s lack of quality middle class jobs that has pushed adults out of good union manufacturing type jobs to working several jobs once claimed by teens.
Now however, post covid no one seems to want to work the teen jobs for some reason.
08-27-2021, 08:12 PM
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Just saw a sign today where I live offering $18 an hour to work at a Sheetz gas station and it said they offered medical benefits. If I was given the choice of throwing bags in the Florida heat or sitting in an air conditioned gas station and ringing up snacks and cigarettes I’d probably chose the later.
I also think they’re dealing with a sort of snowball effect with the lack of under wing crew that do show up working twice as hard making it more likely they call off or just quit all together.
Either way Spirit and other businesses will have to adjust to this by increasing pay and benefits.
I also think they’re dealing with a sort of snowball effect with the lack of under wing crew that do show up working twice as hard making it more likely they call off or just quit all together.
Either way Spirit and other businesses will have to adjust to this by increasing pay and benefits.
08-27-2021, 10:19 PM
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BUUUUT…. The ever annoying light sticks held 1 inch from each other is replaced by the radar distance on the parking getting hung up at .1 meter before the <STOP> is displayed and the jet bridge driver won’t approach so you have to goose it.
08-28-2021, 04:47 AM
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I guess it depends what kind of neighborhood the gas station is in, but either way that isn’t the point, the point is people can chose to do things that pay the same or more and not have to deal with everything that comes with being a ramper. They deserve more pay than the guy flipping burgers or selling cigarettes and right now they’re often making less.
08-28-2021, 06:11 AM
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I guess it depends what kind of neighborhood the gas station is in, but either way that isn’t the point, the point is people can chose to do things that pay the same or more and not have to deal with everything that comes with being a ramper. They deserve more pay than the guy flipping burgers or selling cigarettes and right now they’re often making less.
In the end, you have to pay what you have to to attract people. That’s as simple as that. No different than pilot pay
08-28-2021, 10:05 AM
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Rampers you don’t have to deal with customers like the burger flipper or gas station attendant does. Not having to do the “welcome to Chick-fil-A, can I take your order” has value for a lot of people. As a teen I preferred jobs like landscaping vs customer service, just so I didn’t have to deal with the Karen’s of that time. I can only imagine it’s worse these days in dealing with people.
In the end, you have to pay what you have to to attract people. That’s as simple as that. No different than pilot pay
In the end, you have to pay what you have to to attract people. That’s as simple as that. No different than pilot pay
I get it, retail and food service isn’t for everyone. Still not going to convince me that the work they’re doing isn’t more physically draining, dangerous, and comes with a ton more individual responsibility.
They deserve and need to be paid at a higher level than these other entry level hourly jobs. And when that happens the staffing issues will be sorted. Or we can just sit back and wait and hope that more people will apply for whatever it is they’re paying them now.
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