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02-25-2022, 08:57 AM
#961
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Forgive me of my ignorance as I'm no expert on all of these "no interview" regional flow thru programs, but with United's announcement this week doesn't that secure a legacy job for nearly the entirety of the regional pilot workforce?
At this point who doesn't get a flow thru to XYZ legacy, and why would anyone apply here in that case?
At this point who doesn't get a flow thru to XYZ legacy, and why would anyone apply here in that case?
02-25-2022, 09:04 AM
#962
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Did 6 years at one and the flow is a total joke. It also allows some questionable individuals to sneak by without a legacy interview.
02-25-2022, 09:06 AM
#963
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Forgive me of my ignorance as I'm no expert on all of these "no interview" regional flow thru programs, but with United's announcement this week doesn't that secure a legacy job for nearly the entirety of the regional pilot workforce?
At this point who doesn't get a flow thru to XYZ legacy, and why would anyone apply here in that case?
At this point who doesn't get a flow thru to XYZ legacy, and why would anyone apply here in that case?
02-25-2022, 09:59 AM
#964
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02-25-2022, 11:15 AM
#966
Almost there
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02-25-2022, 05:42 PM
#967
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Flows are not for the benefit of the pilot or to staff the parent legacy. The are for the benefit of the legacy to keep their regional feed staffed. Dangle the carrot so people want to work there. Flows are great for people with major skeletons who have no other shot at a legacy. Otherwise get out to wherever you can, whenever you can and keep a current app with the legacy of that’s your jam.
From the "Fireside Chat with Spirit and Frontier", Barry says (paraphrasing) "Pilots only care about money and QOL. We have the money part covered. They would make the same money here as they would at Delta because we upgrade so much quicker".
Um....upgrade times used to be quicker....but not anymore. And even then you'd still make more money at DAL unless you only had 20 years left in your career. And don't mistake what he's saying there, "we have the money part covered." He's not saying they have the money to pay pilots, he's saying they're already paying pilots! "Our pilots make as much as Delta pilots". If anyone actually believes this, they deserve nothing more than what they have settled for.
02-25-2022, 06:14 PM
#968
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Don't forget about the carrot that F9/NK dangle: upgrade time (haven't seen any of those in months)
From the "Fireside Chat with Spirit and Frontier", Barry says (paraphrasing) "Pilots only care about money and QOL. We have the money part covered. They would make the same money here as they would at Delta because we upgrade so much quicker".
Um....upgrade times used to be quicker....but not anymore. And even then you'd still make more money at DAL unless you only had 20 years left in your career. And don't mistake what he's saying there, "we have the money part covered." He's not saying they have the money to pay pilots, he's saying they're already paying pilots! "Our pilots make as much as Delta pilots". If anyone actually believes this, they deserve nothing more than what they have settled for.
From the "Fireside Chat with Spirit and Frontier", Barry says (paraphrasing) "Pilots only care about money and QOL. We have the money part covered. They would make the same money here as they would at Delta because we upgrade so much quicker".
Um....upgrade times used to be quicker....but not anymore. And even then you'd still make more money at DAL unless you only had 20 years left in your career. And don't mistake what he's saying there, "we have the money part covered." He's not saying they have the money to pay pilots, he's saying they're already paying pilots! "Our pilots make as much as Delta pilots". If anyone actually believes this, they deserve nothing more than what they have settled for.
02-25-2022, 06:50 PM
#970
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The rhetoric of “we make just as much as mainline” was spouted to me just today by a captain. I bit my tongue. Now, whether he actually believes that or not….who knows.
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