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Old 02-23-2022, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
Nobody is blind to the situation or “has their head in the sand”. We all see what you see and are well aware that this could get messy. If it will or not is yet to be seen and those hard set that it will are working off pure emotion and speculation. History suggests that things probably aren’t going to turn out as horrible as some say that it will. We all know there are rough waters ahead. You running around screaming like your hair is on fire, telling us we’re all blind because we’re not doing the same thing, and saying how we’re all doomed doesn’t make you the smart one - It just makes you the hysterical one. I’ve had two careers in my life. In both of which, especially my last one, self preservation and making sure I went home every night was reliant on keeping a clear head and not letting emotions get the best of me during a crisis, regardless of physical or emotional stress at the time. A quality pilots *should* have, but many clearly demonstrate that they don’t. Jumping ship this early in the game without any real facts about the future is a knee jerk emotional response.

There is uncertainty everywhere in the industry right now. If you want to start over and go to the bottom of a 14000 pilot seniority list at a company that’s hiring far more pilots than they need to simply fill retirements while burning $10 million per day in the middle of skyrocketing oil prices, increasing interest rates, inflation, a teetering economy, and the start of an international conflict… you be my guest. I, along with others who aren’t afraid of their own shadow, will strap in for the ride ahead and abandon ship if necessary when the actual facts of the situation, not speculation and emotion, dictate that it’s time.
Yeah, you feel free to quote my hysterical, we’re doomed, running around with my hair on fire posts. Or my scared of my own shadow postings. If anything, your last paragraph is an emotional attack wrapped up in a sad tough guy routine.

This isn’t my first merger or rodeo either.
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Old 02-23-2022, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeFever1
What SWA has, and we NEED, is much better FO rates. Making 180 plus waiting for upgrade is a lot more tolerable than 120.
This right here. Our union kinda painted us into a corner with our FO rates. I get it, they expected people to upgrade out of that, but it looks like upgrades are slowing way down, especially in bars like LAS.
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Old 02-23-2022, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
Yeah, you feel free to quote my hysterical, we’re doomed, running around with my hair on fire posts. Or my scared of my own shadow postings. If anything, your last paragraph is an emotional attack wrapped up in a sad tough guy routine.

This isn’t my first merger or rodeo either.
Got it. I state facts and mention why I’m the “stay calm” type and I’m apparently pulling a sad tough guy routine. If that’s what you consider a tough guy routine, what do you consider your unnecessary post telling another person to “shove it up their a**”? That screams of sad internet tough guy to me.

Anyway. We’re done here. I’ve got more important things to do than spend my day engaging with a miserable internet hero. Off to enjoy life I go. Cheers!
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Old 02-23-2022, 09:47 AM
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If you live in Florida spirit will be a fantastic place to be with lots of opportunities. However if you live in Dfw the opportunities at spirit aren’t that greet. A new hire at AA will likely hold captain in Dfw before I can hold it at spirit
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Old 02-23-2022, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
Got it. I state facts and mention why I’m the “stay calm” type and I’m apparently pulling a sad tough guy routine. If that’s what you consider a tough guy routine, what do you consider your unnecessary post telling another person to “shove it up their a**”? That screams of sad internet tough guy to me.

Anyway. We’re done here. I’ve got more important things to do than spend my day engaging with a miserable internet hero. Off to enjoy life I go. Cheers!
“The love it or leave it” BS will always be met with such a response.

Your “facts” were interspersed with numerous direct and insinuated personal attacks. I can quote those again if you’d like. Go enjoy life. May you do it better than internetting.
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Old 02-23-2022, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
“The love it or leave it” BS will always be met with such a response.

Your “facts” were interspersed with numerous direct and insinuated personal attacks. I can quote those again if you’d like. Go enjoy life. May you do it better than internetting.
well it sounds like you don’t love or will leave it .. so I guess misery is behind door number 2 for you . And he’s happier at life AND internetting than you..
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Old 02-23-2022, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
well it sounds like you don’t love or will leave it .. so I guess misery is behind door number 2 for you . And he’s happier at life AND internetting than you..
His passive aggressive BS scattered with facts suggest strongly otherwise.

I’m deciding which I’ll do. It’s not a easy call either way based on age, break even or future prospects of any company. Spend less time on BBS trying to speak into the lives of others.
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Old 02-23-2022, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
This right here. Our union kinda painted us into a corner with our FO rates. I get it, they expected people to upgrade out of that, but it looks like upgrades are slowing way down, especially in bars like LAS.
Get out of here with this junk. This is the unions fault? Serious?! This is why it’s up to the company to fix their attrition problem, not the unions. You’re spewing nonsense that 2 people on here like to spew. What should the union do? Go to the company and offer up 4 days off for higher rates before Section 6, of course not.

This IS the company’s problem to fix, not the pilots or the union that represents the pilots with pilot representatives.
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Old 02-23-2022, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
If you live in Florida spirit will be a fantastic place to be with lots of opportunities. However if you live in Dfw the opportunities at spirit aren’t that greet. A new hire at AA will likely hold captain in Dfw before I can hold it at spirit
Upgrade times at any Legacy will be shorter than Spirits right now and it is not even close.
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:23 AM
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Does anybody know how many pilots have left in February?
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