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Old 02-15-2022, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Trylabyte
i guess you don't understand EBITDA
Maybe you could get a job at Indigo with that big brain of yours? Probably ought to get the shift key fixed before you update your resume'. ged doesn't quite have the impact as GED.
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Old 02-15-2022, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Trylabyte
not at all im just demoralized with the information at hand. bad management mixed with another one. can only spell trouble. overall id like people to be a bit more wary then just saying "were going to get it all" before they are aware of the actual financials especially in the airline industry.

would i love a great contract? of course
but im expecting a reduction of things overall because well thats what mgmt will put out there.
Not your job to run the company or even analyze the financials. Your job as a pilot, aside from the actual job, is to take as much as you can get. Stop trying to figure out what they can and cannot afford. They have plenty of people doing that for them. Pick a side.

I’ve never seen any employee outside aviation that negotiates their compensation package based on what they think the company could afford. Hell if we had only $5M in the bank and if Ted himself wanted for $10M as a salary he’s going to ask for $10M. If the board offers it to him he’s taking it. In fact I can think of plenty of companies on the brink of closing the doors and then they brought in a new CEO and paid them much more than the one they fired and they couldn’t afford the last one. Point being it’s the cost of doing business. Stop trying to do their job.
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Old 02-15-2022, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Trylabyte
not at all im just demoralized with the information at hand. bad management mixed with another one. can only spell trouble. overall id like people to be a bit more wary then just saying "were going to get it all" before they are aware of the actual financials especially in the airline industry.

would i love a great contract? of course
but im expecting a reduction of things overall because well thats what mgmt will put out there.
If you truly believe bad management will limit your opportunities here, go to someplace you believe will have better management and better opportunities, don’t waste your. Time posting here. Go with my blessing and fervent good wishes - especially if you really are a pilot at NK and ESPECIALLY if you are a pilot at NK senior to me.

But I still think you are a disinformation shill for management. Nobody could seriously believe that a multi year JCBA will be based upon whether or not a company makes a profit in 1Q 2022.
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Old 02-15-2022, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Trylabyte
not making money period ... regardless of the pandemic to ask for a raise when the company isn't making money will be a stretch or will be a angle.
Bendo?

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Old 02-16-2022, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Trylabyte
i don't think you read things.
Another fantastic analysis! You’re on a roll.
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Old 02-20-2022, 09:57 AM
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Another nothing burger for CA upgrades. That will stop the bleeding.
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Old 02-20-2022, 10:01 AM
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Another nothing burger for CA upgrades. That will stop the bleeding.
and a lot of bases not getting any FOs, that will significantly increase reserve times. Also for people coming here, you will no longer get the base you want after training or soon after. Unless you are one of the main bases, expect to wait at least 6months before getting the base you want.
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Old 02-20-2022, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by IamEssential
and a lot of bases not getting any FOs, that will significantly increase reserve times.
50 pilot difference from FOs and CA upgrades. Not good Bendo.
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Old 02-20-2022, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by IamEssential
and a lot of bases not getting any FOs, that will significantly increase reserve times. Also for people coming here, you will no longer get the base you want after training or soon after. Unless you are one of the main bases, expect to wait at least 6months before getting the base you want.
There’s still some normal movement outside of vacancies, but still bad. I live in a base and might bid to another one to hold a line.
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Old 02-20-2022, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by IamEssential
and a lot of bases not getting any FOs, that will significantly increase reserve times. Also for people coming here, you will no longer get the base you want after training or soon after. Unless you are one of the main bases, expect to wait at least 6months before getting the base you want.
What are the main bases? Which bases didn't get FOs?
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