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Old 01-13-2022, 05:14 AM
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Part 91, here today gone tomorrow. Good luck with that, you may need it.
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Old 01-13-2022, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
Since when is Spirit getting XLRs? Was this a conversion from your last big order?
no,XLR on the order books at this time. can always convert 321neos into xlr, but with 228 seats as our seating config the xlr still prob couldnt make it that far south
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Old 01-13-2022, 05:36 AM
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Curious why F9 is jumping all over the XLR with the same business model as us, but we’re saying it can’t work here.
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Old 01-13-2022, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
Curious why F9 is jumping all over the XLR with the same business model as us, but we’re saying it can’t work here.
Especially since we typically operate 321’s 20-30k lbs under their max TO weights.
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Old 01-13-2022, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Soxfan1
Honest question. The cellphone bill? Are you saying you don’t currently have a cellphone in the year 2022 and you only would need one if you went 121 (but not currently in part 91) hence why it becomes an expense?

I get that you need one for 121 - especially reserve but implying it’s a cost to going 121 means you don’t have one/need one today? Serious question. What am I missing?

It’s pretty standard for a cell phone either be provided, or bill reimbursed, in the 91/135 world.
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Old 01-13-2022, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by cezzna
I hope you guys can up the pay, I’m the perfect example of someone on the fence about jumping to 121. I did the meet and greet in Orlando a few months ago. I had a great experience with everyone I met. Had a really nice small interview there. We talked about South America flying, the 321 XLR and possibly adding Santiago and Buenos Aires as destinations. I got the video interview and that went well. In the mean time a 91 gig fell into my lap. Didn’t have to move, average about 6 days a month of flying, starting pay in the 150’s. I’m 54 and doing the math, the first year pay, training pay made it a deal breaker. Add in the cost of crash pads, cellphone bill, commuting and it just ends up being more work for around the same pay for my last decade. I’d really like to join you guys, hopefully the pay comes up!
I honestly don’t think 121 is the right for for you anyways. Not saying this as a negative, but when “cell phone” bill is a point of contention, you will not like reserve or some other things common in the 121 world. Because it’s not the cost of commuting that’s annoying with the crash pads etc, it’s commuting in itself if you are home based now. So it’s going to suck, regardless, if you’ve never done it.

Enjoy your 91 gig.
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Old 01-13-2022, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
no,XLR on the order books at this time. can always convert 321neos into xlr, but with 228 seats as our seating config the xlr still prob couldnt make it that far south
The new ones will have 235 seats per the fleet plan, fwiw…
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Old 01-13-2022, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cezzna
I hope you guys can up the pay, I’m the perfect example of someone on the fence about jumping to 121. I did the meet and greet in Orlando a few months ago. I had a great experience with everyone I met. Had a really nice small interview there. We talked about South America flying, the 321 XLR and possibly adding Santiago and Buenos Aires as destinations. I got the video interview and that went well. In the mean time a 91 gig fell into my lap. Didn’t have to move, average about 6 days a month of flying, starting pay in the 150’s. I’m 54 and doing the math, the first year pay, training pay made it a deal breaker. Add in the cost of crash pads, cellphone bill, commuting and it just ends up being more work for around the same pay for my last decade. I’d really like to join you guys, hopefully the pay comes up!

I was just joking about the A321XLR and going to SCL and EZE.
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Old 01-13-2022, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by OneplusF
The stat often quoted is 40% of all dollars in US history were printed in the 2020 & 2021. They don’t mean actually paper currency. It’s money created out of thin air by the fed due to spending by Congress. That’s why you’re seeing 7% inflation numbers being reported today (and many speculate ‘real’ inflation exceeds 7%)
This is what I was referring too.. has nothing to do with paper money. To the other post- yes, I don’t know what I’m talking about. Obviously creating more money out of thin air has nothing to do with inflation.
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Old 01-13-2022, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cezzna
I hope you guys can up the pay, I’m the perfect example of someone on the fence about jumping to 121. I did the meet and greet in Orlando a few months ago. I had a great experience with everyone I met. Had a really nice small interview there. We talked about South America flying, the 321 XLR and possibly adding Santiago and Buenos Aires as destinations. I got the video interview and that went well. In the mean time a 91 gig fell into my lap. Didn’t have to move, average about 6 days a month of flying, starting pay in the 150’s. I’m 54 and doing the math, the first year pay, training pay made it a deal breaker. Add in the cost of crash pads, cellphone bill, commuting and it just ends up being more work for around the same pay for my last decade. I’d really like to join you guys, hopefully the pay comes up!
You're not getting any younger. Most of these corporate jobs start at 150k and that's essentially the top. You might get some paltry raises here and there,but that's it. I've done both and prefer 121 and it's not even close.

Just the fact that I have a real schedule and they can't call me on my day off and force me to work makes it worth the short term hit.

With that said, everyone agrees that pay needs to go up. By the time it does, you'll be way closer to retirement, though.
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