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Old 01-12-2022, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Yeah, well inflation numbers like this ought to open some ears up…



Not corrected for inflation, you lose 7% of your purchasing power a year. So at the end of a five year contract with only a 2% per year kicker, you could be down to (0.95)^5 or roughly 77% of the purchasing power you had on day one of the contract.
I keep repeating this. Same as those people that look at DOS+4 rates and compare them to expired rates of old contracts. You can only compare rates for the same year, or after correcting for inflation. No, Sun Country does not pay better than Delta.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Yeah, well inflation numbers like this ought to open some ears up…



Not corrected for inflation, you lose 7% of your purchasing power a year. So at the end of a five year contract with only a 2% per year kicker, you could be down to (0.95)^5 or roughly 77% of the purchasing power you had on day one of the contract.
Isn’t it nice to know we’re making less today than we made yesterday!🤦‍♂️
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Old 01-12-2022, 08:58 AM
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Don’t forget the 100 dollar oil on the way very soon. At 83 right now.
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
Don’t forget the 100 dollar oil on the way very soon. At 83 right now.
Yeah, we should shut down another pipeline! B’cause, as we’ve been told, higher prices are good for the middle class and inflation is just “transitory”.

I trust everything the federal government tells me. And I trust everything they do is for OUR benefit.

(Yes, that’s sarcasm for those of you who don’t immediately recognize it).
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
No, Sun Country does not pay better than Delta.
It’s amazing that people don’t understand this
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
It’s amazing that people don’t understand this
Do I need to talk about marginal tax rates? There's a lot of economic stuff that is over my head, at least partly because IDGA#, but the elementary things.....
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Old 01-12-2022, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Do I need to talk about marginal tax rates? There's a lot of economic stuff that is over my head, at least partly because IDGA#, but the elementary things.....


Last serious study done showed that 66% of Americans do not understand compound interest. One would HOPE that airline pilots are all in the other 34%. Probably not anything you would want to bet your life on though…
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Pfffft.. I’d say 3 out of 5 guys I fly with contribute less than 7% to their 401k because they don’t trust investing, they think if you make 200k then every dollar is taxed at that tax rate, can’t tell you even 1 fund their 401k is invested in.. etc. I’m not a financial genius… and Pilots are educated folks, but the lack of financial literacy is an American problem ..pilots included.
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Pfffft.. I’d say 3 out of 5 guys I fly with contribute less than 7% to their 401k because they don’t trust investing, they think if you make 200k then every dollar is taxed at that tax rate, can’t tell you even 1 fund their 401k is invested in.. etc. I’m not a financial genius… and Pilots are educated folks, but the lack of financial literacy is an American problem ..pilots included.
I had a guy who never thought he’d have money to retire. So I did basic math with him on how much time he has left and his contribution level. And then adding that up, without considering any growth on his investment, showed him he’d be a millionaire.

That won’t mean what it used to when he retires, but that was just the 401k stuff without growth let alone outside investing or his significant other putting money away too.
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I’d like to see the CPI 2021 vs.. 2019….. Comparing 2021 prices vs. 2020 is like comparing our 2021 revenues vs. 2020…. Look at this HUGE jump in money!!!!!!

Prices are up, definitely, but how much more than what we were accustomed to in 2019???

The second question is, is the growth in price from 2021 vs. 2019 growth related or supply chain blockage related??
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