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Old 02-09-2024, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
No movement is not the axe dropping, that’s just normal. You must be new to being a pilot if you think upgrades every month are a normal career.
So true. Most of us are quick to forget the post 9/11 state of the industry. Yes, everyone else seems to be hiring at the moment, but stagnation at an airline is nothing new.
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Old 02-10-2024, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
No movement is not the axe dropping, that’s just normal. You must be new to being a pilot if you think upgrades every month are a normal career.

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Old 02-13-2024, 03:34 PM
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Looks like now more than ever would be a good time for the MEC to start posting attrition data with some regularity again. It was pretty clear that management is closely monitoring the attrition with regard to coming up with a solution to "right size" Sounds like we should have that same info too.
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Old 02-13-2024, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
Looks like now more than ever would be a good time for the MEC to start posting attrition data with some regularity again. It was pretty clear that management is closely monitoring the attrition with regard to coming up with a solution to "right size" Sounds like we should have that same info too.
The union is not privy to attrition data.
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Old 02-13-2024, 05:24 PM
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40 aircraft down by the end of the year is ~500 pilots. I think a year's attrition will take care of it. An awful lot of people have apps out.
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Old 02-13-2024, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
The union is not privy to attrition data.
Yes they are.
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:18 PM
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Update on attrition coming tomorrow, hope it goes to a monthly basis.

And yes the union keeps tabs on attrition - it's part of the Membership committee duties.
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
40 aircraft down by the end of the year is ~500 pilots. I think a year's attrition will take care of it. An awful lot of people have apps out.
500-600 yes, but I imagine we have to take into account the 20-something new aircraft we will be getting this year as well. Brings that number down to 300-400. Am I missing something?

If we get really technical, 27 new planes--> (40 - 27= 13) means only 13 planes down at our peak. Say we're being overly liberal and want 15 pilots per plane, thats 195 pilots too many at our peak. I imagine if the number were really that small then it wouldnt even be a concern for management right now or a topic of discussion. 195 pilots will be gone by summer.
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Old 02-13-2024, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostKhost
Update on attrition coming tomorrow, hope it goes to a monthly basis.

And yes the union keeps tabs on attrition - it's part of the Membership committee duties.
where will that data be posted?
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Old 02-13-2024, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
40 aircraft down by the end of the year is ~500 pilots. I think a year's attrition will take care of it. An awful lot of people have apps out.
27 new planes to offset the downed planes. Leaves 13 planes down at our peak. Total of 195 pilot surplus if we have 15 pilots per plane.
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