Attrition
12-06-2023, 06:54 AM
#3641
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
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First, “being bankrupt” is only a thing in Monopoly. If you’re referring to restructuring, yes, one airline can be in restructuring and it would be factored into any seniority list integration.
But if you’re willing to go to the bottom of a legacy list now, you will still be better off being integrated as a 10+ year CA if we were in Ch11 and take a hit from the current financial issues with the company.
But if you’re willing to go to the bottom of a legacy list now, you will still be better off being integrated as a 10+ year CA if we were in Ch11 and take a hit from the current financial issues with the company.
Some people have a genetic tendency to wallow in doubt and stress. Like the last FO I flew with said: "I know I wasn't supposed to have earbuds in cruise, but I just got tired of listening to this captain b*tch about everything...."
12-06-2023, 07:18 AM
#3642
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,909
You've provided insight, clarification, and pretty much told him to go outside and get some sunshine and listen to the birds.
Some people have a genetic tendency to wallow in doubt and stress. Like the last FO I flew with said: "I know I wasn't supposed to have earbuds in cruise, but I just got tired of listening to this captain b*tch about everything...."
Some people have a genetic tendency to wallow in doubt and stress. Like the last FO I flew with said: "I know I wasn't supposed to have earbuds in cruise, but I just got tired of listening to this captain b*tch about everything...."
12-06-2023, 07:25 AM
#3643
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Joined APC: Dec 2022
Posts: 859
I didn’t say a merger/acquisition by a legacy carrier. Although that is a real possibility in BK court, assets are assets at that point. Yellow planes have to go somewhere if it gets to that point.
This administration will be out in 13 months. Joe and his crusade will be out with a new DOJ in, all things change with a new DOJ on any mergers. I’m sure that is a huge consideration with HA and AK right now, taking a gamble a new DOJ will be in.
This administration will be out in 13 months. Joe and his crusade will be out with a new DOJ in, all things change with a new DOJ on any mergers. I’m sure that is a huge consideration with HA and AK right now, taking a gamble a new DOJ will be in.
Ch11 I don’t see a legacy acquisition ever getting approved. I think Frontier is the only future outside of JetBlue. Small bases with limited swapping available and will have to strike for any marginal raises.
As for a new DOJ. I have a strong feeling that if Trump is the nominee you will see Biden in for term 2. The republicans need to get their act together and figure out how to dump that guy as quick as possible.
12-06-2023, 07:26 AM
#3644
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2023
Posts: 11
I’m 98% in my base/category at AA, but spend way more time at home than I did at Spirit. I only worked 9 days last month. Granted, I am on call on reserve, and don’t get any days off I want, but I don’t get used much on reserve. Seniority is moving fast here and United, so you’ll take a hit in quality of life initially, but it comes back quickly.
January about 30 to 35% of the base will be on reserve. Lines are shrinking and reserves aren't being used.
12-06-2023, 07:50 AM
#3645
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 1,010
If we are ch7 which is unlikely yes the assets will go somewhere but there will be no integration. It will be apply and get hired.
Ch11 I don’t see a legacy acquisition ever getting approved. I think Frontier is the only future outside of JetBlue. Small bases with limited swapping available and will have to strike for any marginal raises.
Ch11 I don’t see a legacy acquisition ever getting approved. I think Frontier is the only future outside of JetBlue. Small bases with limited swapping available and will have to strike for any marginal raises.
Also, the legacies could make it happen.
12-06-2023, 08:33 AM
#3646
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,114
3500 trained pilots and 200 aircraft are BOTH significant assets. But the 3500 pilots can't be sold absent buying the whole company. So you are really talking Chapter 11. Because bond holders must be made whole if possible.
And look at the Purdue Pharma case. A bankruptcy court is trying to grant the owners amnesty from even the owners civil liability for starting the opiate epidemic that is today causing 30 times the US fatalities ANNUALLY as 9/11 did once.
NK will never go Chapter 7 and unless the DOJ took it to the Supreme Court AND WON it would wind up with whoever made the best offer for it. The likelihood of that being F9 is EXTREMELY low.
And look at the Purdue Pharma case. A bankruptcy court is trying to grant the owners amnesty from even the owners civil liability for starting the opiate epidemic that is today causing 30 times the US fatalities ANNUALLY as 9/11 did once.
NK will never go Chapter 7 and unless the DOJ took it to the Supreme Court AND WON it would wind up with whoever made the best offer for it. The likelihood of that being F9 is EXTREMELY low.
Last edited by Excargodog; 12-06-2023 at 09:10 AM.
12-06-2023, 02:20 PM
#3647
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Joined APC: Dec 2022
Posts: 859
I think you are contradicting yourself a bit here, judging from this post and others. You talk about merging with Frontier being the only option left (a huge combined ULCC), but then in other posts you mention the model being at critical mass and nobody wants to fly on us anymore.
Also, the legacies could make it happen.
Also, the legacies could make it happen.
12-06-2023, 10:17 PM
#3648
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Captain
Posts: 1,561
12-07-2023, 06:06 AM
#3650
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: NK CA
Posts: 838
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