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12-05-2023, 05:18 PM

#3631

Noisecanceller

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Originally Posted by SSlow

Perhaphs, but the other option is starting over from zero on first year pay with no seniority

Well that’s true. I think being acquired by anyone besides frontier would be highly unlikely

12-05-2023, 05:31 PM

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CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

Well that’s true. I think being acquired by anyone besides frontier would be highly unlikely

I don’t agree with this. There are plenty of airlines that would like NK to go away and gladly take their planes/pilots/gates

Legacy airlines didn’t create basic economy out of the blue. Get ride of basic economy, when you get rid of NK

12-05-2023, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

This is my struggle. I will never be as senior as I am now if I leave which means my QOL will never be as good.

I’m 98% in my base/category at AA, but spend way more time at home than I did at Spirit. I only worked 9 days last month. Granted, I am on call on reserve, and don’t get any days off I want, but I don’t get used much on reserve. Seniority is moving fast here and United, so you’ll take a hit in quality of life initially, but it comes back quickly.

12-05-2023, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

Out of curiosity are you DFW 737 or DFW 320?? And, have they merged the domestic/international bid status yet??

12-05-2023, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

I understand what ALPA merger policy is. One carrier being bankrupt and 1/5th the size and all narrowbody isn’t going to bode well in the eyes of an arbitrator.

look what VX got at Alaska. You will be surprised what an arbitrator will award.

12-05-2023, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tranquility

Out of curiosity are you DFW 737 or DFW 320?? And, have they merged the domestic/international bid status yet??

DFW 320. They’re merging D/I by the end of 2024.

12-06-2023, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

If JetBlue isn’t approved no way in the world an acquisition by a legacy would ever be.

12-06-2023, 04:52 AM

#3638

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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

look what VX got at Alaska. You will be surprised what an arbitrator will award.

AS/VX were both narrow body airlines and not bankrupt. JB/NK I’d expect similar integration but NK/legacy No

12-06-2023, 05:30 AM

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CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

If JetBlue isn’t approved no way in the world an acquisition by a legacy would ever be.

I didn’t say a merger/acquisition by a legacy carrier. Although that is a real possibility in BK court, assets are assets at that point. Yellow planes have to go somewhere if it gets to that point.

This administration will be out in 13 months. Joe and his crusade will be out with a new DOJ in, all things change with a new DOJ on any mergers. I’m sure that is a huge consideration with HA and AK right now, taking a gamble a new DOJ will be in.

12-06-2023, 05:39 AM

#3640

CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

I understand what ALPA merger policy is. One carrier being bankrupt and 1/5th the size and all narrowbody isn’t going to bode well in the eyes of an arbitrator.

First, “being bankrupt” is only a thing in Monopoly. If you’re referring to restructuring, yes, one airline can be in restructuring and it would be factored into any seniority list integration.

But if you’re willing to go to the bottom of a legacy list now, you will still be better off being integrated as a 10+ year CA if we were in Ch11 and take a hit from the current financial issues with the company.