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01-07-2022, 04:36 PM

#341

jetblueballs

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Originally Posted by Voski

Our Year 12 rates are on pair with the legacies, but they’re going to have to ‘bring up the middle’ to keep people.

Spirits 12 year rates are no where near the legacies. Actually a year one United a320 captan has a higher hourly rate than a 12 year spirit captain. Their 12 year rate is currently $30 dollars an hour more. Not to mention all the other bonuses they get such as PS... Spirit has a long way to go in terms of compensation.

01-07-2022, 04:39 PM

#342

sioux8ships

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Originally Posted by jetblueballs

^^^^ this. I also agree with the other OP who mentioned we need to be the highest paid narrow body pilots out there. Without a doubt!

01-07-2022, 04:48 PM

#343

DrDHD

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Originally Posted by sioux8ships

^^^^ this. I also agree with the other OP who mentioned we need to be the highest paid narrow body pilots out there. Without a doubt!

This is the attitude needed for the next contract!!! Not the “if you don’t like it apply elsewhere” philosophy which runs rampant.

01-07-2022, 04:51 PM

#344

CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by DrDHD

This is the attitude and position needed for the next contract!!! Not the “if you don’t like it apply elsewhere” philosophy which runs rampant.

Or what about the guy on the other thread that said Spirit and LCCs positions are "jobs" and legacy pilot positions are "careers". Who the hell wants to go into contract negotiations with someone who from the start, views himself as inferior to Legacy pilots? Leave that mentality behind.
Pilots willing to label themselves "low tier" sure as hell wont help us

01-07-2022, 04:55 PM

#345

DrDHD

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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

Agree. Recognize the short falls, address them in c2022, and MAKE it BETTER then a LEGACY. Period.

01-07-2022, 04:58 PM

#346

jetblueballs

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Originally Posted by sioux8ships

^^^^ this. I also agree with the other OP who mentioned we need to be the highest paid narrow body pilots out there. Without a doubt!

I totally agree or more bases that other airlines do not have otherwise why would someone with options come here? Quality of life is VERY good at all the majors not just Spirit...

01-07-2022, 05:28 PM

#347

sioux8ships

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Originally Posted by jetblueballs

I totally agree or more bases that other airlines do not have otherwise why would someone with options come here? Quality of life is VERY good at all the majors not just Spirit...

Aint that the truth. Not sure how we developed this our QOL is the best around. I don’t see DAL, UA or AA guys lining up for our incredible QOL!

01-07-2022, 05:32 PM

#348

minnymum

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Originally Posted by DrDHD

with an attitude like that the spirit group will never make gains contractually. Shortage is here. Don’t strive to be the lowest. Recognize the short falls and don’t keep saying how this place is “Atleast better then a regional.” MAKE it BETTER then a LEGACY

CLE to IAH has been abused by the regionals, he’s just happy to be anywhere other than his last.

01-07-2022, 05:51 PM

#349

Mtnbikemike

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Originally Posted by sioux8ships

Hope SPAMEC doesn’t give in to any MOU.

Nothing surprises me. They negotiate in secret then drop subpar bs on dues paying members while we watch our brothers and sisters at other airlines get 300%. Always a day late and a dollar short.