Attrition
11-12-2023, 06:25 PM
#3463
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One little nugget I found in the Spirit contract which I think sets the tone for the entire document is found in the Hotel Minimum Standards section (5.A.2.a.7) which states hotels must be "within walkable proximity to acceptable chain restaurants, e.g., Applebee’s or Chili’s." Applebees or Chilis may be acceptable to your clientele, but it shouldn't be acceptable to major airline pilots.
11-13-2023, 09:30 AM
#3465
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The health plan I subscribe to is better than most of my six-figure professionals acquaintances' health plans, but I'd be open to improvements so long as they aren't to the detriment of other gains.
As far as the reason for the acquisition (your word)... JB simply cannot get deliveries fast enough from the factories. Plus this engine issue is going to be a problem.
I've been perusing your contract and it seems it will indeed be a large raise, and I'm happy for you.
One little nugget I found in the Spirit contract which I think sets the tone for the entire document is found in the Hotel Minimum Standards section (5.A.2.a.7) which states hotels must be "within walkable proximity to acceptable chain restaurants, e.g., Applebee’s or Chili’s." Applebees or Chilis may be acceptable to your clientele, but it shouldn't be acceptable to major airline pilots.
As far as the reason for the acquisition (your word)... JB simply cannot get deliveries fast enough from the factories. Plus this engine issue is going to be a problem.
I've been perusing your contract and it seems it will indeed be a large raise, and I'm happy for you.
One little nugget I found in the Spirit contract which I think sets the tone for the entire document is found in the Hotel Minimum Standards section (5.A.2.a.7) which states hotels must be "within walkable proximity to acceptable chain restaurants, e.g., Applebee’s or Chili’s." Applebees or Chilis may be acceptable to your clientele, but it shouldn't be acceptable to major airline pilots.
Lets say you could get those planes where are you going to park them?
Lets say you could get the planes and the gates, who is going to fly them?
I didnt really belive the fud about JB pilots huffing the blue juice...but here you are.
11-13-2023, 11:02 AM
#3466
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11-16-2023, 02:34 AM
#3469
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Back to attrition.
Pace of attrition at JB has significantly picked up again in November to the tune of almost 2 a day. I’ll be interested in your quarterly numbers to see if it’s the same at NK.
I thought there might be a risk of furlough for you guys with the PW issue, but if you are still seeing comparable ratios to our losses as before, then I doubt the company would need any.
What are the NK retirement numbers for 2024/25?
JB-
2023-7
2024- 63
2025 - 66
Pace of attrition at JB has significantly picked up again in November to the tune of almost 2 a day. I’ll be interested in your quarterly numbers to see if it’s the same at NK.
I thought there might be a risk of furlough for you guys with the PW issue, but if you are still seeing comparable ratios to our losses as before, then I doubt the company would need any.
What are the NK retirement numbers for 2024/25?
JB-
2023-7
2024- 63
2025 - 66
11-16-2023, 03:51 AM
#3470
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,909
Back to attrition.
Pace of attrition at JB has significantly picked up again in November to the tune of almost 2 a day. I’ll be interested in your quarterly numbers to see if it’s the same at NK.
I thought there might be a risk of furlough for you guys with the PW issue, but if you are still seeing comparable ratios to our losses as before, then I doubt the company would need any.
What are the NK retirement numbers for 2024/25?
JB-
2023-7
2024- 63
2025 - 66
Pace of attrition at JB has significantly picked up again in November to the tune of almost 2 a day. I’ll be interested in your quarterly numbers to see if it’s the same at NK.
I thought there might be a risk of furlough for you guys with the PW issue, but if you are still seeing comparable ratios to our losses as before, then I doubt the company would need any.
What are the NK retirement numbers for 2024/25?
JB-
2023-7
2024- 63
2025 - 66
2025-20
Furloughs will be tricky compared to normal industry furloughs in the past.
Normally it’s “we aren’t making money, we are shrinking, we need less pilots”
With the engines, the draw down is slower and measured and they have to factor in attrition without backfilling with new hires.
My guess is they will be fine on FOs with attrition and not backfilling the next 18 months. Captains will be over staffed and they will need to decide how to deal with that. I assume JBLU will have the ultimate say on this, once merger is approved
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