Lincoln Osiris

It’s called seniority and not having a loser defeatist attitude like you.

symbian simian

You came here voluntarily when we were the worst paid and voted no to a TA you knew would pass, and I'm the defeatist loser? 😂

Justabusdriver1

Sounds like despite “being the lowest tier pilots” spirit still offers him the best job and opportunity on the market. Can’t magically turn a company into something they are not especially if management has no intention of doing so. Spirit doesn’t care if it has the best pilots or the highest paid pilots. They aren’t particularly proud of us and don’t go out into the industry proclaiming those things. This is the company you chose to work for and you choose to stay for your own reasons. Deal with it or move on

Lincoln Osiris

The management trolls are all over the internet today wow. You and simian desk mates in the office?

CLE to IAH

yes.



filler.

Justabusdriver1

Can’t get a job at McDonald’s and after 10 years demand they pay you like a 5 star chef. Same goes for why doing similar work at small independent owned businesses doesn’t get the same pay as the same job done at Apple or google. Working at or for that smaller business has its own perks that keeps you there over the big corp.

Just because I’m educated and understand business management financials doesn’t mean I’m a management troll. You staying at spirit is the same reason lifers stay at the regional. It’s because spirit offers you a qol at a particular pay rate that you have accepted. Staying just means the alternative of either starting over seniority or having to work at another airline based outside of your domicile gives you a worse qol vs pay than what this new contract has.

Lincoln Osiris

They still allowing you guys to do casual Fridays over there in Miramar?

I was inverted

A McDonald’s employee doesn’t do the work of / nor have the education / experience / expertise of a 5 star chef, whereas a spirit Airbus driver and a delta Airbus driver literally have the exact same certification and experience and do the same job. Anybody can be a McDonald’s employee. Not everyone can be a 5 star chef. The numbers of each prove that. Not everyone can be an ATP pilot, and spirit and delta draw from the same applicant pool. Again, McDonald’s employees and 5 star chefs do not come from anywhere near the same pool. So, I’d say you using that comparison followed up by your comment about you understanding business financials is contradictory.

Justabusdriver1

I think you’re confused. Spirit pulls from a pool of cfis, delta and other legacies require couple thousand hours to be competitive. Spirit will hire with no degree and even though delta and United have dropped the requirement you’ll be hard pressed to find someone there without one. By saying we do the same work as united and delta pilots so do regionals pilots. We all transport pax from place to place. Did many trips well over 4 hrs while at a regional so it’s not all short hops. If you’d like to argue fleet type 737 pilots arguably do more work than Airbus pilots.

We aren’t all the same. We sign up to work for a specific company with specific work rules for a specific pay. That same job at another company might pay a lot more but will have different working conditions and different work rules. You choose based on what’s acceptable and what the best overall situation is for you. Spirit has never and will never be the highest paid and a lot of people are willing to give that up for what they determine to be better qol and better work rules. This is where spirit sits in the industry and until there’s a change in management or a change in the companies position or thinking it’s where spirit will stay.

Lincoln Osiris

Just ignore the management troll.