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01-16-2023, 04:38 PM

#3021

PossibleDeviation

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Originally Posted by I was inverted

Junior FedEx guys are looking at going to delta. Go look at their forum. Things slowed there. Deltas contract ends at $383 for A321 $396 for 321NEO with way faster narrowbody seniority progression, faster upgrades, better sick and vacation, way better profit sharing expected to add probably 10-20% additional compensation on top of already much higher rates. Not just “a bit” more pay I don’t think, and with faster relative seniority on NBs and a better contract, likely better QOL too.

Just paged through Deltas TA. I’ll eat my words. What NK passed is literal trash and the two CBAs are now barely comparable.

Hopefully I will see you there soon.

01-16-2023, 04:43 PM

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JulesWinfield

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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation

Just paged through Deltas TA. I’ll eat my words. What NK passed is literal trash and the two CBAs are now barely comparable.

Hopefully I will see you there soon.

United and AA are on the way too. The spirit TA is close to their old contract rates.

01-16-2023, 05:58 PM

#3023

CRJdriver2017

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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

United and AA are on the way too. The spirit TA is close to their old contract rates.

United probably is….AA not so sure…

01-16-2023, 06:12 PM

#3024

fcoolaiddrinker

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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield

United and AA are on the way too. The spirit TA is close to their old contract rates.

look at the bright side. Looks as though they still haven’t fixed vac. Got the 5th week after 15 but credit still industry lagging. Hawaiian cemented themselves to that as well with thier ta.

01-19-2023, 07:11 PM

#3025

skytrekker

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Add lack of fleet growth with the 319 going away over the next two years and Airbus having trouble with deliveries. Let’s see how far they fall behind on the 33 deliveries due this year.

01-19-2023, 07:21 PM

#3026

SSlow

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Originally Posted by skytrekker

Add lack of fleet growth with the 319 going away over the next two years and Airbus having trouble with deliveries. Let’s see how far they fall behind on the 33 deliveries due this year.

Do they even care about that anymore?

Seems like the corporate vision is to keep this place limping along without imploding to the point of complete failure

01-20-2023, 03:22 AM

#3027

envoy1

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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation

Just paged through Deltas TA. I’ll eat my words. What NK passed is literal trash and the two CBAs are now barely comparable.

Hopefully I will see you there soon.

I'm at Delta and some of us are even against our current TA as it stands. Really having trouble figuring out why you guys passed this garbage.

01-20-2023, 03:23 AM

#3028

SpeedBrakes

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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation

Just paged through Deltas TA. I’ll eat my words. What NK passed is literal trash and the two CBAs are now barely comparable.

Hopefully I will see you there soon.

You are correct. That Dog and Pony road show should have hinted towards this. Time to replace MEC and especially this very weak NC.

01-20-2023, 05:48 AM

#3029

symbian simian

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Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes

You are correct. That Dog and Pony road show should have hinted towards this. Time to replace MEC and especially this very weak NC.

Maybe just replace 70% of the pilots? (I voted yes)

01-20-2023, 06:08 AM

#3030

PossibleDeviation

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Originally Posted by envoy1

I'm at Delta and some of us are even against our current TA as it stands. Really having trouble figuring out why you guys passed this garbage.

It was sold to the pilot group as essentially a momentary pay raise while we wait for the TPA and JCBA with JetBlue. The MEC achieved their goals with fear mongering about our financial situation. Very surprised and sad that it passed with 69% of the vote.