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Old 12-07-2022, 03:11 PM
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Legacy managements are saying the delta AIP is the new benchmark. Our own representatives should at least be saying the same.
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Old 12-07-2022, 09:38 PM
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Legacy managements are saying the delta AIP is the new benchmark. Our own representatives should at least be saying the same.
Agreed, anything less is a slap in the face.
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Old 12-07-2022, 10:22 PM
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Agreed, anything less is a slap in the face.
Spirit is going to be Will Smith, no doubt. Prepare for the pie in the face.
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Old 12-08-2022, 08:35 AM
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What about training pay? Got better or still the same?
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Old 12-08-2022, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by av02
What about training pay? Got better or still the same?
No one knows until tomorrow
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Old 12-10-2022, 07:14 PM
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So training pay up to $2500 coupled with no health insurance for 90 days is a big deal. It is a slap in the face. A worse slap was $1750 and I get it that all the current pilots endured that. If you are 25 years old with no family responsibilities, it may be a slap you can take. Can your family take it?

I feel like the company had a golden opportunity to address attrition. Regular pay during training, health insurance on day one, and at least match the pay that a new hire gets at a regional. Pretty simple. Opportunity missed.
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Old 12-10-2022, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FlySAFT
So training pay up to $2500 coupled with no health insurance for 90 days is a big deal. It is a slap in the face. A worse slap was $1750 and I get it that all the current pilots endured that. If you are 25 years old with no family responsibilities, it may be a slap you can take. Can your family take it?

I feel like the company had a golden opportunity to address attrition. Regular pay during training, health insurance on day one, and at least match the pay that a new hire gets at a regional. Pretty simple. Opportunity missed.
Yeah, I had an interview lined up and was hoping this would be addressed but it doesn't seem so.
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Old 12-10-2022, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FlySAFT
So training pay up to $2500 coupled with no health insurance for 90 days is a big deal. It is a slap in the face. A worse slap was $1750 and I get it that all the current pilots endured that. If you are 25 years old with no family responsibilities, it may be a slap you can take. Can your family take it?

I feel like the company had a golden opportunity to address attrition. Regular pay during training, health insurance on day one, and at least match the pay that a new hire gets at a regional. Pretty simple. Opportunity missed.

Hey, you get a paid uniform if this goes through, so things are looking up.
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Old 12-10-2022, 10:51 PM
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I feel like the company had a golden opportunity to address attrition. Regular pay during training, health insurance on day one, and at least match the pay that a new hire gets at a regional. Pretty simple. Opportunity missed.
Don't forget no improvements to our crap reserve rules either. Also directly effects new hires.
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Old 12-10-2022, 10:59 PM
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Don't forget no improvements to our crap reserve rules either. Also directly effects new hires.
I asked a union rep this and they informed me that when the survey came back from the pilot group, certain reserve rules weren’t really a priority for negotiations
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