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Old 12-20-2021, 04:50 PM
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now a frontier merger? Oh yeah! Lowest paid ULCC conglomerate!!!
ULCC= Ultra Low Compensated Crew
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Old 12-20-2021, 05:32 PM
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Southwest won’t buy/aquire/takeover Spirit. If they did this place would actually have decent wages so that CAN’T and won’t happen.

now a frontier merger? Oh yeah! Lowest paid ULCC conglomerate!!!
I hear delta is hiring these days 🤷‍♂️
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Old 12-20-2021, 09:15 PM
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Just sayin I’m top 30% in the company. Top 40% in base. Holidays off. No red eyes, no international. And In January I have 16 days off .. 7 off in a row , 5 off in a row, and 4 off in a row. And if I wanted more off I could drop any of my trips and get nearly two weeks off in a row. Or I could drop the entire month and be a ski bum.
if we got gobbled up by WN I’m guessing I wouldn’t be able to check off any of those boxes.
At WN you would have 16 days off on reserve half the months. 15 the other half, never redeyes (sofar), average days off over 16 per month for all line holders, if you are senior way better schedule flexibility, checkerboard vacation weeks and get 150 hours credit working 10 days in the busy months. You could not be more wrong. I am at NK, but family at WN. The only thing holding us up, it took us 8 years to get to 25% company wide, but without that growth WN beats us soundly, even before profit sharing.
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
Just sayin I’m top 30% in the company. Top 40% in base. Holidays off. No red eyes, no international. And In January I have 16 days off .. 7 off in a row , 5 off in a row, and 4 off in a row. And if I wanted more off I could drop any of my trips and get nearly two weeks off in a row. Or I could drop the entire month and be a ski bum.
if we got gobbled up by WN I’m guessing I wouldn’t be able to check off any of those boxes.

Bottom 5 percent at WN and have that no issue if I want it. Not a true drop all, but there are ways to really widdle down the schedule to having 20 days off a month. And you can make more off happen if you HAVE to through other means.
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Old 12-21-2021, 04:49 AM
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Bottom 5 percent at WN and have that no issue if I want it. Not a true drop all, but there are ways to really widdle down the schedule to having 20 days off a month. And you can make more off happen if you HAVE to through other means.
Precisely. Some data points for me next month:

- One week of vacation that pays 50.7 TFP and created a 17 day off window. If you bid for “highest vacation pay” you’ll consistently get 40-45 TFP per week of vacation (and some of the real bidding experts can get 55-60 TFP by overlapping one vacation week into two months). The touching trips being dropped will give you 16-17 days off in a row.

- For the one poster that hated busy trips….I just swapped out of a low block (10 hour) 3-day that paid minimum rig of 19.5 TFP. I have a friend that loves the 3 days that block 10-12 hours. I just refuse to go to work for 6.5 TFP/day. To each their own. What trips my trigger are 3-days paying 25+ of which I’ve had a 26+ and 27+ in the last two months. Btw, roughly 75-80% of our trips are 3-days.

- Currently sitting at 95 TFP for January working five days and having one week of vacation which accounts for 50.7 of that credit.

My biggest fear is that somehow the efficiency of SWA schedules goes away. As far as I know they’ve always been very efficient and PBS is a HARD NO for us so hopefully the ability to go to work and average 8 or more TFP/day will always be there.

I know you guys can straight up drop trips and we could too at AirTran but is “insufficient reserve coverage” a big issue when trying to? You guys use Flica, right?
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Old 12-21-2021, 05:34 AM
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Precisely. Some data points for me next month:

- One week of vacation that pays 50.7 TFP and created a 17 day off window. If you bid for “highest vacation pay” you’ll consistently get 40-45 TFP per week of vacation (and some of the real bidding experts can get 55-60 TFP by overlapping one vacation week into two months). The touching trips being dropped will give you 16-17 days off in a row.

- For the one poster that hated busy trips….I just swapped out of a low block (10 hour) 3-day that paid minimum rig of 19.5 TFP. I have a friend that loves the 3 days that block 10-12 hours. I just refuse to go to work for 6.5 TFP/day. To each their own. What trips my trigger are 3-days paying 25+ of which I’ve had a 26+ and 27+ in the last two months. Btw, roughly 75-80% of our trips are 3-days.

- Currently sitting at 95 TFP for January working five days and having one week of vacation which accounts for 50.7 of that credit.

My biggest fear is that somehow the efficiency of SWA schedules goes away. As far as I know they’ve always been very efficient and PBS is a HARD NO for us so hopefully the ability to go to work and average 8 or more TFP/day will always be there.

I know you guys can straight up drop trips and we could too at AirTran but is “insufficient reserve coverage” a big issue when trying to? You guys use Flica, right?
We have a reserve grid telling us beforehand if there are sufficient reserves to drop the trip. It’s hit or miss, but usually not a problem to drop something reasonable. I.e., don’t expect to just drop a major holiday trip.
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Old 12-21-2021, 05:41 AM
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We have a reserve grid telling us beforehand if there are sufficient reserves to drop the trip. It’s hit or miss, but usually not a problem to drop something reasonable. I.e., don’t expect to just drop a major holiday trip.
Same as we had at AirTran. You do use Flica and PBS right?
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Precisely. Some data points for me next month:

- One week of vacation that pays 50.7 TFP and created a 17 day off window. If you bid for “highest vacation pay” you’ll consistently get 40-45 TFP per week of vacation (and some of the real bidding experts can get 55-60 TFP by overlapping one vacation week into two months). The touching trips being dropped will give you 16-17 days off in a row.

- For the one poster that hated busy trips….I just swapped out of a low block (10 hour) 3-day that paid minimum rig of 19.5 TFP. I have a friend that loves the 3 days that block 10-12 hours. I just refuse to go to work for 6.5 TFP/day. To each their own. What trips my trigger are 3-days paying 25+ of which I’ve had a 26+ and 27+ in the last two months. Btw, roughly 75-80% of our trips are 3-days.

- Currently sitting at 95 TFP for January working five days and having one week of vacation which accounts for 50.7 of that credit.

My biggest fear is that somehow the efficiency of SWA schedules goes away. As far as I know they’ve always been very efficient and PBS is a HARD NO for us so hopefully the ability to go to work and average 8 or more TFP/day will always be there.

I know you guys can straight up drop trips and we could too at AirTran but is “insufficient reserve coverage” a big issue when trying to? You guys use Flica, right?

Right!

The only issue is reserve. Thats harder to get rid off, and almost no flex unless you call in sick or find someone to pick it up or trade a trip.
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Old 12-21-2021, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Same as we had at AirTran. You do use Flica and PBS right?
When I’m not busy filing NCC’s because it’s not allowing us access.
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Old 12-21-2021, 07:50 AM
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Get prepared to kiss all the green days goodbye along with lineholder schedule flexibility if reservists are allowed to drop R days
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