gomissedagain

Oh really? Maybe I come on this site to get information. I make posts to give information. Look at my post history. I have NEVER attacked anyone first. I have NEVER made fun of anyone unless they gave me crap first. Half the time I don’t even respond. This time I did. People making fun of each other, calling each other names, trolling, etc.: that’s what ruins this site. Sometimes I get so sick of it I fight back. I have a serious like/hate relationship with this site. Just stick to giving receiving information. We don’t have to call poster’s comments or opinions “stupid” like I just read. Educate don’t denigrate. That dude went way off the rails on me. I fought back. Sorry not sorry.

And since we’re on that subject: you feel good calling me out because I misspelled a word because I’m texting on my phone? The crap you people choose to focus on. Pathetic.

Seriously everyone don’t bother responding to this or anything else I’ve said in this thread. I am most definitely leaving this chat. I got what I came for. Thank you to those that responded respectfully and maturely to my queries. To the rest- find a better hobby than attacking people just because they say something you don’t like. Your family will notice the change.

BananaHammock

That's definitely a myopic viewpoint and apparently management is very myopic on this subject. Anyone paying even the slightest amount of attention knows that regional FOs aren't flying and the advice given on every mentorship forum, chat, etc, etc is NK type rating and bounce. So the choice is stay at the regional and not fly, or come here, get typed, put the hours on the log book and leave. It's pretty clear that we have to hire that much just to TRY and stave off attrition. It's only going to get much worse if management doesn't come to the table with market rates for everyone and NO concessions.

Fah2

Say more. You’re definitely proving him wrong.

Justabusdriver1

Training pay is only about attracting people here and clearly by filling class and having a majority of classes full every week training pay is less of a factor. Raising it likely wouldn’t increase those number enough to justify raising it. People leaving after the type has more to do with people aspirations to go to a legacy and improve quality of life for what works for them. Spirit to most is not a destination airline and that could be attributed to many factor but right now pay is one of them. Raising pay across the board but mostly first year pay would definitely help that. Raising training pay imo wouldn’t affect someone decision to stay once they’ve arrived on property. Could affect someone’s decision to come here but the amount of money they’d have to give to increase the number to go from 90% training capacity to 100% would be a lot. More than what the company is willing to give.

CLE to IAH

emotional.

Jimdunbar

Delta AIP is out. Wow, we will continue to have attrition with something like that to compete against

Poppachubby

What do you mean "you people"?!! Seriously dude, you need to look in the mirror. Maybe re-read some of your posts here and hopefully you'll see how you come off?! Maybe Spirit is not worthy of a man/woman of your talents ........so don't apply. After all, as you implied in one of your other posts; that FO's are leaving "in droves" due to all the A-hole pilots here at Spirit!

Halon1211

would you mind posting pay rates and contract improvement in benefits here? I did some searching and can’t really seem to find it.

All I keep finding on the Delta forums is people talking about percentage but I just want the actual hourly rate numbers.

CincoDeMayo

Haha. The irony of a guy who has made a business of posting incorrect information to others, is now requesting information be posted for his benefit.

Top DAL CA rate is $643 on the A320 and $965 on the A350

How is that for a Halon response?

Halon1211

hey I like that! that means our lowball offer will go up even more from the company.