Attrition
11-22-2022, 06:46 PM
#2661
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MCO and LAS are considered low-yield leisure markets. MIA/FLL is a little more mixed.
The most profitable airline hubs are large metros with lots of industry/business travel and a large middle class of travelers who go lots of places, only a few of which are Mickey Mouse and Lost Wages. But in fairness that hasn't yet worked for an ULCC, so for them so far the low yield leisure markets are the best they've got.
The most profitable airline hubs are large metros with lots of industry/business travel and a large middle class of travelers who go lots of places, only a few of which are Mickey Mouse and Lost Wages. But in fairness that hasn't yet worked for an ULCC, so for them so far the low yield leisure markets are the best they've got.
11-23-2022, 05:00 AM
#2664
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11-23-2022, 05:09 AM
#2666
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11-23-2022, 05:38 AM
#2667
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Well, let's see.
Nations largest ULCC last to profitability.
F9, can't afford jetways in it's home town, and was very late to return to profitability, and would it actually have been profitable if hadn't stolen $200+ million from it's customers?
The model in general seems to run out of steam after it saturates Mickey Mouse, Lost Wages and cheap Florida, both large US ULCCs seem to open and close bases as often as normal people change their underwear. The higher service, higher fare airlines returned to profitability much sooner (in general) and have reached higher levels of profitability than the ULCCs, and new ULCC competition is arriving rapidly...
And, the one main advantage a ULCC has is low cost and cheap tickets, but as they get older their workforce matures onto higher pay scales and new ULCC entrants on low longevity pay will take away their one competitive advantage...
There's more, but I've got other stuff to do. Good luck.
Nations largest ULCC last to profitability.
F9, can't afford jetways in it's home town, and was very late to return to profitability, and would it actually have been profitable if hadn't stolen $200+ million from it's customers?
The model in general seems to run out of steam after it saturates Mickey Mouse, Lost Wages and cheap Florida, both large US ULCCs seem to open and close bases as often as normal people change their underwear. The higher service, higher fare airlines returned to profitability much sooner (in general) and have reached higher levels of profitability than the ULCCs, and new ULCC competition is arriving rapidly...
And, the one main advantage a ULCC has is low cost and cheap tickets, but as they get older their workforce matures onto higher pay scales and new ULCC entrants on low longevity pay will take away their one competitive advantage...
There's more, but I've got other stuff to do. Good luck.
11-23-2022, 06:15 AM
#2669
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Well, let's see.
Nations largest ULCC last to profitability.
F9, can't afford jetways in it's home town, and was very late to return to profitability, and would it actually have been profitable if hadn't stolen $200+ million from it's customers?
The model in general seems to run out of steam after it saturates Mickey Mouse, Lost Wages and cheap Florida, both large US ULCCs seem to open and close bases as often as normal people change their underwear. The higher service, higher fare airlines returned to profitability much sooner (in general) and have reached higher levels of profitability than the ULCCs, and new ULCC competition is arriving rapidly...
And, the one main advantage a ULCC has is low cost and cheap tickets, but as they get older their workforce matures onto higher pay scales and new ULCC entrants on low longevity pay will take away their one competitive advantage...
There's more, but I've got other stuff to do. Good luck.
Nations largest ULCC last to profitability.
F9, can't afford jetways in it's home town, and was very late to return to profitability, and would it actually have been profitable if hadn't stolen $200+ million from it's customers?
The model in general seems to run out of steam after it saturates Mickey Mouse, Lost Wages and cheap Florida, both large US ULCCs seem to open and close bases as often as normal people change their underwear. The higher service, higher fare airlines returned to profitability much sooner (in general) and have reached higher levels of profitability than the ULCCs, and new ULCC competition is arriving rapidly...
And, the one main advantage a ULCC has is low cost and cheap tickets, but as they get older their workforce matures onto higher pay scales and new ULCC entrants on low longevity pay will take away their one competitive advantage...
There's more, but I've got other stuff to do. Good luck.
11-23-2022, 06:18 AM
#2670
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Position: A320 FO
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Well, let's see.
Nations largest ULCC last to profitability.
F9, can't afford jetways in it's home town, and was very late to return to profitability, and would it actually have been profitable if hadn't stolen $200+ million from it's customers?
The model in general seems to run out of steam after it saturates Mickey Mouse, Lost Wages and cheap Florida, both large US ULCCs seem to open and close bases as often as normal people change their underwear. The higher service, higher fare airlines returned to profitability much sooner (in general) and have reached higher levels of profitability than the ULCCs, and new ULCC competition is arriving rapidly...
And, the one main advantage a ULCC has is low cost and cheap tickets, but as they get older their workforce matures onto higher pay scales and new ULCC entrants on low longevity pay will take away their one competitive advantage...
There's more, but I've got other stuff to do. Good luck.
Nations largest ULCC last to profitability.
F9, can't afford jetways in it's home town, and was very late to return to profitability, and would it actually have been profitable if hadn't stolen $200+ million from it's customers?
The model in general seems to run out of steam after it saturates Mickey Mouse, Lost Wages and cheap Florida, both large US ULCCs seem to open and close bases as often as normal people change their underwear. The higher service, higher fare airlines returned to profitability much sooner (in general) and have reached higher levels of profitability than the ULCCs, and new ULCC competition is arriving rapidly...
And, the one main advantage a ULCC has is low cost and cheap tickets, but as they get older their workforce matures onto higher pay scales and new ULCC entrants on low longevity pay will take away their one competitive advantage...
There's more, but I've got other stuff to do. Good luck.
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