Attrition
11-20-2022, 10:32 AM
#2621
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,335
There’s no more meat on the bone. The airplanes are coming in droves. Management has sunk themselves.
11-20-2022, 10:55 AM
#2622
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 128
Did say they weren’t. If this company is serious about growth with new airplane orders the last thing they would be doing is reducing domiciles. Maybe focus on staffing ATL and IAH by incentivizing people to come and stay? 3 new planes a month, record attrition, but hey let’s kick a bunch of people out of DTW DFW and ORD.
Have you seen the last bid? They are having NO problem staffing either new base.....
11-20-2022, 12:41 PM
#2623
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
Announce no deal or another industry trailing TA sold as some sort of stop gap agreement and they will watch their problem get worse as pilots on the fence decide to jump.
11-20-2022, 02:05 PM
#2625
Max Days Off
Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 94
Why is it the last thing they would be doing? Hey let's lose money but keep these bases open because of pilot morale. That's not how businesses run. We have 4 gates at ORD, DFW and a few more in DTW that are not producing the results the company wants, so they decide to open IAH, ATL MCO.
Have you seen the last bid? They are having NO problem staffing either new base.....
Have you seen the last bid? They are having NO problem staffing either new base.....
11-20-2022, 10:02 PM
#2626
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 1,010
10 gates in DTW. Morale is pretty important when the name of the game right now is attract and retain pilots. From conversations with my colleagues many are trying to leave because of the reductions. I’ve even spoken to buddies from regionals who got a CJO and decided to stay at the regional because they are driving to work. The pairings can and are already built to flow into bases such as FLL and do that flying. With the new airplanes coming at this rate keeping them staffed would seem to be the priority, not lowering morale and losing even more than they are. Now is the time for pilots to shine, we have options and people will continue leaving/not come here if the domicile they want is no longer attainable and the pay is the lowest in the industry.
We've got to make Detroit great again, just like it was in that Clint Eastwood movie where he got shot up at the end.
11-21-2022, 05:33 AM
#2627
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,520
serious question, what does it matter for management at this point? What responsibilities do they have other than keeping the doors open? If JB already agreed to a stock price, what incentives does our company have to make money, increase stock price, utilize airplanes etc. I know they have to act as if the merger might not go through, but let’s be honest, that won’t happen.
11-21-2022, 05:42 AM
#2628
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 551
Because this is what we should be arguing about, the merits of closing/reducing/gutting bases.
Even if turned out to be the most effective operational decision they ever made and it still sucks for the the guys who are now made commuters. It’s a gut punch for those that put in years to upgrade there, or those who turned down other jobs to be here.
There’s nothing we can do in the short term to change that, so our goal should be getting us all paid.
Even if turned out to be the most effective operational decision they ever made and it still sucks for the the guys who are now made commuters. It’s a gut punch for those that put in years to upgrade there, or those who turned down other jobs to be here.
There’s nothing we can do in the short term to change that, so our goal should be getting us all paid.
11-21-2022, 06:58 AM
#2629
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 200
serious question, what does it matter for management at this point? What responsibilities do they have other than keeping the doors open? If JB already agreed to a stock price, what incentives does our company have to make money, increase stock price, utilize airplanes etc. I know they have to act as if the merger might not go through, but let’s be honest, that won’t happen.
Also, displacements at a rapidly growing airline is shameful.
11-21-2022, 07:26 AM
#2630
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,520
Sorry, I just don’t see any real sense of urgency on their part. Every F/O I fly with is leaving and they have multiple girls/guys from their Initial classes joining them. I think if mgmt had some kind of skin in the game we’d already have an expedited CBA, not “significant gap remaining “ type of email. That’s why I asked.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
