Lakeaffect

That might happen, but…. the flip side is we might also get stuck with our rates until the JCBA if we turn down “crap” AK rates. Normally, yes it would be worth it to hold out, but we have maybe 1-2 years and that’s it. At some point it’s more lucrative to accept B6 rates now than to hold out for AK rates when you have a limited time to take advantage of those rates before a JCBA (this is the real opportunity) is agreed upon. I don’t know what the right answer is, it’s not exactly straight forward and simple, a lot of different opinions on here.

The longer Spirit holds out the higher the industry comes up with WN, UAL, AA, DL all close to agreements. I think we should be able to hold out for better than current B6, Spirit is in a pinch. To expect better than the industry leader any day now is not realistic though. From a management standpoint it would probably be better to wait and see and stay unprofitable for at least a few more months than to freak out and give industry leading rates with so much uncertainty with the future of our economy. I hope I eat my words, we shall see.

An added advantage to being unprofitable, especially when everyone else is profitable, gives us the upper hand when DOJ is looking at approving the merger.

CincoDeMayo

Or..or…

We wait and see if we get a TA, evaluate it, and then vote based on the merits of the TA.

DrSteveBrule

Something that poor getting past the mec to the group would not only be embarrassing and likely worsen captain attrition while not slowing FO attrition, but it also would be grounds for a recall. That said, i expect it.

newyellobusp27

I hope our MEC is not dumb enough to even show something not better than JBs pay


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Tranquility

If people actually filled out the surveys, they should have a good idea of what can be ratified and what cannot. If they send a turd, vote no. If it’s a complete slap in the face, vote no, and let the recall process commence.

EDIT: If the NC fails to send us something (too low), let that speak volumes about the company’s stance on what they deem as adequate. Company did this almost exactly 7 years ago, I’m not expecting anything different….

skigambia

Just a quick heads up. Captain attrition doesn't bother any airline management

skigambia

Wanna put money on that??

Alpiner

Tell that to the regionals

Popeye0537

How long did they get to keep those rates??

DrSteveBrule

Thanks for the heads up?