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Old 11-17-2022, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What we really want to know is when will the regionals run out of captains & fold?
Me too. Or if a recession is going to save them. Wonder how many DECs that $100K bonus for a two year commitment will pull out of the woods. For that matter, you may see active senior FOs from one regional giving notice and jumping ship to a competitor.

we are in interesting times…
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Old 11-17-2022, 04:38 PM
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It’s getting approved. That entire “it won’t get approved” crap came straight from frontier trying to sell their own merger. It’s getting approved so stop worrying about it
Almost 500m reasons for why it gets approved. This is the worst kept secret around, of course it gets approved
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Old 11-17-2022, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
Please stop talking about what you’ll settle for. None of us can speak for the pilot group as a whole and these chats will be screen shot
Right on. I know what you’re getting at but you clearly didn’t take a second realize that I’m pointing out exactly what our NC has said. They aren’t asking for more than Alaska, if you think they are, you haven’t got a clue. So if me saying I’d settle for Alaska is some give away, it’s not and you haven’t been following along.
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Old 11-17-2022, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakeaffect
Right on. I know what you’re getting at but you clearly didn’t take a second realize that I’m pointing out exactly what our NC has said. They aren’t asking for more than Alaska, if you think they are, you haven’t got a clue. So if me saying I’d settle for Alaska is some give away, it’s not and you haven’t been following along.
Fine and dandy and if they’re not they may as well start over.
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Old 11-17-2022, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjamaica
Spirit intends to open two more new bases next year. Look at what happened when they opened IAH and ATL. Major involuntary displacements out of current bases. What do you think is going to happen when they open two more? Hint, more displacements
Did they say something about this? I guess everyone trying to justify their position isn't surprising. What is silly is this effort considering in a year Spirit won't exist.
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Old 11-17-2022, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
Fine and dandy and if they’re not they may as well start over.
This is the first step in a long process to “building our legacy”. Boost our pay in the form of a LOA, then hammer out a JCBA or CBA. It was never to get industry leading pay before the JCBA. Sure, if management gets desperate enough and industry leading pay happens, great! But our NC is not holding out for that at this step. If you think that’s not gonna work call your rep, I’m sure they’d love to hear your thoughts🥱
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:05 PM
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"In the world of change, here I am
Tryin to have some thangs
So what you need is some game, to get your money man"

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Old 11-17-2022, 08:24 PM
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I think the only reason the Spirit pilots don’t already have a letter of agreement with significant raises for all is because your negotiating committee is taking their time and making the gains you so richly deserve.

Time is on your side.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakeaffect
Right on. I know what you’re getting at but you clearly didn’t take a second realize that I’m pointing out exactly what our NC has said. They aren’t asking for more than Alaska, if you think they are, you haven’t got a clue. So if me saying I’d settle for Alaska is some give away, it’s not and you haven’t been following along.
Apparently AS got a lot of QOL improvement with those cr@p rates. Supposedly, we are only getting pay rates. No reason to accept AS rates.
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Old 11-17-2022, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Apparently AS got a lot of QOL improvement with those cr@p rates. Supposedly, we are only getting pay rates. No reason to accept AS rates.
Yea, I hear you, it’s a good point. If management wants to give us AS +, great, but it doesn’t sound like they’re anywhere close to there yet. So it depends on how desperate they get, but we don’t have the luxury of holding out for 2-3 years assuming the merger is approved. If we hold out too long we get nothing until the JCBA is done. No reason we can’t get a solid increase now, and then hit a home run with the JCBA (that’s the NC’s focus)
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