Attrition
11-08-2022, 06:49 AM
#2331
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JB agreed to pay a certain amount at the current labor cost. If we go to Alaska +1 or whatever it might be, JB no has to pay that the increased labor cost.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
11-08-2022, 07:22 AM
#2332
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Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 551
JB agreed to pay a certain amount at the current labor cost. If we go to Alaska +1 or whatever it might be, JB no has to pay that the increased labor cost.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
You do realize we still have to negotiate an entirely new JCBA before we actually merge right? NK could raise the top rate to $500 and min days off to 18 and it wouldn’t matter to JetBlue as they still pay the same price and get to negotiate the new pilot contract.
11-08-2022, 07:46 AM
#2333
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
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JB agreed to pay a certain amount at the current labor cost. If we go to Alaska +1 or whatever it might be, JB no has to pay that the increased labor cost.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
We're running independently, however I would be ok if this line of thinking increases attrition.
11-08-2022, 07:58 AM
#2334
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,370
JB agreed to pay a certain amount at the current labor cost. If we go to Alaska +1 or whatever it might be, JB no has to pay that the increased labor cost.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
11-08-2022, 08:00 AM
#2335
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,967
JB agreed to pay a certain amount at the current labor cost. If we go to Alaska +1 or whatever it might be, JB no has to pay that the increased labor cost.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
Spirit is free to run their operation as they see fit, they will compete as stated, and your price analogy doesn’t even work.
The only thing “interesting” is how far you’ll go with this wildly incorrect position.
Peace and Love
11-08-2022, 08:02 AM
#2336
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 37
You are so incorrect with this. Don’t dig in deeper
Spirit is free to run their operation as they see fit, they will compete as stated, and your price analogy doesn’t even work.
The only thing “interesting” is how far you’ll go with this wildly incorrect position.
Peace and Love
Spirit is free to run their operation as they see fit, they will compete as stated, and your price analogy doesn’t even work.
The only thing “interesting” is how far you’ll go with this wildly incorrect position.
Peace and Love
He a yes vote even if it came down to no increase in pay in the TA
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11-08-2022, 08:17 AM
#2337
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 394
JB agreed to pay a certain amount at the current labor cost. If we go to Alaska +1 or whatever it might be, JB no has to pay that the increased labor cost.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
Imagine agreeing to buy something for $20 then you go pick it up and they say that it’s now $30. Kinda of the same concept.
It’s the same reason F9 got a pay raise after the merger fell through. They couldn’t increase any labor costs because they were in talks with us. That came right out of HRs mouth to me.
Like I said, it’ll be interesting how far they’ll go. I’m sure JB is aware of the situation and knows the labor cost will go up. We’ll see how this plays out.
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11-08-2022, 09:06 AM
#2338
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: blueJet
Posts: 4,536
JetBlue announced the bid to acquire Spirit less than 24 hours after the B6 pilots voted in favor of the NEA grievance settlement. So clearly you can’t give raises during mergers.
Of course this would be an example of “flawed logic.”
Of course this would be an example of “flawed logic.”
11-08-2022, 09:16 AM
#2339
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To another poster that mentioned a JCBA, I’m aware that will have to be negotiated. That is also a lengthy process. After the money is transferred and the keys to operation is given to, JB will be funding the operation. So increase in pilot pay can’t be $500/hr. There will be a cap of some sort.
This line of thinking isn’t wrong at all. I went through a merger before coming into the 121 world and my company froze raises to appeal to the buyer. Wanted to show the other company that labor costs are fixed/lower long term. It’s a numbers game.
I believe that either JB knows of the necessary raises that needs to happen and is okay with it or JB paid so much more which allows for wiggle room for salary increases. Probably the first one.
Lastly, F9’s management themselves told our group that the last pay increase happened because the merger didn’t go through. They had to abide by the agreement and certain legalities while in merger talks which included raising pay (I summarized that, of course)
11-08-2022, 09:22 AM
#2340
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I bet you think strippers like you too.........
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