Attrition
11-06-2022, 08:55 AM
#2292
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 25
hope everyone votes this way. I’m a new hire so I can’t vote my opinion. But came to spirit with intentions of staying long term. When Alpa spoke with our class it was “we’re working on a quick fix for pay and then long term joint contract with JB” “quick fix pay?” What if spirit pilots are offered jet blue rates today? Yes better (mostly for new hires) but it’s still old rates and less than industry standard. Plus that “quick fix pay” to stop attrition is going to suck when/ if this merger dosent actually get approved by the DOJ. Even if it does the chance of them completing it early 2024 is a pipe dream.
11-06-2022, 09:02 AM
#2293
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,114
hope everyone votes this way. I’m a new hire so I can’t vote my opinion. But came to spirit with intentions of staying long term. When Alpa spoke with our class it was “we’re working on a quick fix for pay and then long term joint contract with JB” “quick fix pay?” What if spirit pilots are offered jet blue rates today? Yes better (mostly for new hires) but it’s still old rates and less than industry standard. Plus that “quick fix pay” to stop attrition is going to suck when/ if this merger dosent actually get approved by the DOJ. Even if it does the chance of them completing it early 2024 is a pipe dream.
Almost…
That may also be the reason management is slow-rolling this.
11-06-2022, 10:33 AM
#2294
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
hope everyone votes this way. I’m a new hire so I can’t vote my opinion. But came to spirit with intentions of staying long term. When Alpa spoke with our class it was “we’re working on a quick fix for pay and then long term joint contract with JB” “quick fix pay?” What if spirit pilots are offered jet blue rates today? Yes better (mostly for new hires) but it’s still old rates and less than industry standard. Plus that “quick fix pay” to stop attrition is going to suck when/ if this merger dosent actually get approved by the DOJ. Even if it does the chance of them completing it early 2024 is a pipe dream.
11-06-2022, 10:57 AM
#2295
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 427
If the Jet Blue deal goes south, F9 is still waiting in the wings to scoop NK up. And management could probably go right back to their old sweetheart deals with Franke and company. I’d almost be willing to settle for Jet Blue rates just to keep that from happening, because that may well be a better deal than you’d get on a JCBA with .
How’s that POS airline you work at? You guys planning on being profitable any time soon?
11-06-2022, 12:08 PM
#2297
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 417
11-06-2022, 01:18 PM
#2298
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 988
hope everyone votes this way. I’m a new hire so I can’t vote my opinion. But came to spirit with intentions of staying long term. When Alpa spoke with our class it was “we’re working on a quick fix for pay and then long term joint contract with JB” “quick fix pay?” What if spirit pilots are offered jet blue rates today? Yes better (mostly for new hires) but it’s still old rates and less than industry standard. Plus that “quick fix pay” to stop attrition is going to suck when/ if this merger dosent actually get approved by the DOJ. Even if it does the chance of them completing it early 2024 is a pipe dream.
jetBlue FO rates would be nearly 25% increase for most mid level FO’s. Include a clause that whatever gains jetBlue gets in their current negotiations we get also. Also that if the merger fails we immediately go back to the table.
11-06-2022, 05:42 PM
#2299
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
Pay is black on white. If they want to scratch out the pay table and put Alaska+ in it’s place it takes one meeting. Don’t tell me a “quick” deal should mean less pay. Pay is not nuanced taking multiple meetings to negotiate language.
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