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Old 10-12-2022, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
I was really hoping for more. Kind of disappointing.
there’s a really easy way for you to add to that number .
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Old 10-12-2022, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
there’s a really easy way for you to add to that number .
Easy guy. An increase in attrition would be a good thing.
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Old 10-12-2022, 08:22 AM
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64 more left in Sept according to latest email and I moved up 6 Capt slots in last 2 weeks
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Old 10-12-2022, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
64 people left on September at spirit.

CA/FO breakdown?


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Old 10-12-2022, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by riddleeagle18
ca/fo breakdown?


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55 fo 9 ca

The important part is the fact the hired almost 98 pilots and the net is only 34, they only kept 1/3 of their new hires. I believe this is the worst attrition/hire percentage of the year. You can’t hire your way out of this when you manage to get 100 to show up to class and you end the month with barely enough FOs to staff 2 planes, when we are getting 12 this quarter alone and still aren’t up to full
Utilization with the fleet we have

AND still a displacement coming which will have people looking for a move.
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Old 10-12-2022, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
55 fo 9 ca

The important part is the fact the hired almost 98 pilots and the net is only 34, they only kept 1/3 of their new hires. I believe this is the worst attrition/hire percentage of the year. You can’t hire your way out of this when you manage to get 100 to show up to class and you end the month with barely enough FOs to staff 2 planes, when we are getting 12 this quarter alone and still aren’t up to full
Utilization with the fleet we have

AND still a displacement coming which will have people looking for a move.
They’ve dug themselves in quite the hole.
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Old 10-12-2022, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BananaHammock
Can we redo our surveys?

I thought I was pretty aggressive but Breeze new rates have me second guessing
Maybe I'm missing something but the new Breeze rates that I saw resembled our old contract. They're not anything that I'd be shooting for.

If you're not looking at the Alaska TA please step back from the voting booth.
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Old 10-12-2022, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
If you're not looking at the Alaska TA please step back from the voting booth.
And they are going to be the floor unless we are actually dumb enough to make a new floor bc of attitudes like “well this is Spirit”
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Old 10-13-2022, 04:59 AM
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Ted's getting his lunch eaten. Every day that goes by, there are more and more announcements of airlines adding service on routes we used to serve. Im not so sure Ted will ever see a profitable quarter again at this company without fixing utilization. There's only one way to fix utilization.

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Old 10-13-2022, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
Maybe I'm missing something but the new Breeze rates that I saw resembled our old contract. They're not anything that I'd be shooting for.

If you're not looking at the Alaska TA please step back from the voting booth.
I probably could have worded it differently but no reason to be rude in the second half, it's just a sign of a lack of ability to think critically, that's on you at the end of the day though so have fun with that, maybe keep yourself away from any voting booths...

I used an inflation calculator etc., etc., and tried to make a reasonable what I actually thought we could get and added 10% to come up with the answer to the survey question - what is my minimum? My proposed minimum rates came out better than Alaska's by a fair amount.

What I meant was when I saw how much Breeze, whom I do not consider a competitor, got for their rates - I feel like I should have said my minimal acceptable on the survey was higher.
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