DrDHD

you back to trolling again?

FNGFO

The north face company jacket put him over the edge.

Halon1211

nah, it’s the pay. The jacket was just the icing on the cake.

JulesWinfield

Keep in mind that these numbers can change fairly quickly. You could get hired and a class date and 6 months later the music could stop. If you’re relatively junior here, go for it. If you’re close to upgrading, it could be a much tougher decision.

symbian simian

Been here 8 years. If I include the gains from not having to commute (live in legacy base, commute to NK, so not the same for everyone, would get trip rigs from getting to the crew room, as opposed to spending 10-ish hours per trip not getting paid), and upgrade after 3 years, I would break even after about 10 years, based on current contract, all narrow body. And could sit reserve at home. Anything WB would be a vast improvement financially. With all retirements at the legacies and our upgrades exclusively based on growth, I think anybody with 20 years to go and still on reserve as a captain here should at least look at it. Of the 14000 pilots at AA , 11000 will retire in the next 2 decades. of the 2800 at NK, 1800 will still be here. To achieve the same seniority if you get hired now, based on AA not growing, we need to grow to 8500 pilots, and 550airplanes (nevermind that with WB, NB is much more junior, so being 30% company wide at AA is much better seniority as NB captain compared to being 30% at any single fleet operator like SWA NK or F9..). Not impossible, but not exactly guaranteed either.

And the music can stop here too, so sitting reserve as a captain for a long time after already having done years as an FO.....

CincoDeMayo

You’ve been here a short time, right? Still first year? I would have my stuff in everywhere and see what bites I get. You have very little invested here seniority wise.

DrDHD

you really gonna leave us and the posts here? 👎🏻👎🏻

symbian simian

See you in class!!

Halon1211

nah, I’ll still come visit you guys here. Who else is going to have really bad predictions about the next new cities that will be served? CincoDeMayo? Meek? CLE to IAH? I don’t think so

dualinput

Don’t blame you one bit. Anyone junior and commuting either way should definitely be looking at options. Anyone that commutes and would switch to living in base should definitely be looking no matter their seniority here.

All the covid early outs created a hiring vacuum. Retirements that would’ve taken place over a few years happened all at once.

Wide body FOs are making the same as spirit captains and dozing for dollars