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Old 12-03-2021, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
I’m sure there will be less then 35 next time around and there is double the pilots now. Sun Country got a new TA I’m sure we will still be less then them. Can’t wait for the “we are almost sun country” pay rates chatter.
Damn boy, you negative
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Old 12-04-2021, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDHD
I’m sure there will be less then 35 next time around and there is double the pilots now. Sun Country got a new TA I’m sure we will still be less then them. Can’t wait for the “we are almost sun country” pay rates chatter.
Almost as many new pilots will have been hired between the last contract and this coming negotiation as were here to vote in the last one.

Like it or not, it’s an entirely different pilot group. Many of those come from corporate and military and potentially regionals that didn’t have a negotiation during their time there. Talk to the guys you fly with, let them know what to expect.
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Old 12-04-2021, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FahQ2
Talk to the guys you fly with, let them know what to expect.
I do talk sometimes, but am also self aware that I may come across as a little too negative. I've even said something to the effect of "At what point do I stop saying that I voted no?" I'm aware that I have a somewhat tin foil hat view of how our last round went down.

To be fair (Ahtoo be faaaiiiirrr) I am indeed reaping the benefits of our contract, and am quite happy with my pay and QOL. I just feel that... well, I've said it a million times already.

I expect this round will be no different. Maybe our leverage is slightly better *today* but a lot can change in the next year. We know that. And Management knows that.
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Old 12-08-2021, 12:46 PM
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How many of you FO's less than 2yrs have their apps out and/or already have interviews lined up or even class dates set at UAL/DAL/AA/UPS/FEDEX???
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Old 12-08-2021, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IamANewbie
How many of you FO's less than 2yrs have their apps out and/or already have interviews lined up or even class dates set at UAL/DAL/AA/UPS/FEDEX???
I would venture to say the vast majority have apps out if you under 2 years here if for no other reason than they had them out prior to coming here.

Now how many would jump ship if one of the big three called would be interesting.
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Old 12-08-2021, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by IamANewbie
How many of you FO's less than 2yrs have their apps out and/or already have interviews lined up or even class dates set at UAL/DAL/AA/UPS/FEDEX???
FEDEX needs 500PIC and UPS 1000 before theyll even consider your app. Guess it depends if you have PIC from a prior gig.
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Old 12-08-2021, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by IamANewbie
How many of you FO's less than 2yrs have their apps out and/or already have interviews lined up or even class dates set at UAL/DAL/AA/UPS/FEDEX???
UAL is hiring with zero TPIC. 2000 total turbine time is all they are requiring and interviewing with right now. Regional FOs are getting the call now.

As far as how many, a friend that recently interviewed at United said that there were 3 Spirit pilots in his interview group.
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Old 12-08-2021, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
I would venture to say the vast majority have apps out if you under 2 years here if for no other reason than they had them out prior to coming here.
In talking to all of the airlines at RTAG and to the recruiters on their online sessions that they have been doing, any application that has not been updated in the last 4-6 months is considered "dead". To be brought in for an interview, you must have updated in the last 30 days or less. Some want it updated every 14 days or less.
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Old 12-16-2021, 08:20 AM
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Latest vacancy bid at United has the most junior CA award at 8 months on property. 1,070 or so vacancies, 130+ WB FO slots unfilled. Fedex has 757 CA in MEM hired in August 2021. I planned on staying with Spirit, but this is hard to pass up. I went ahead and put my stuff in at the big 3 this morning. It sounds like they like Spirit guys too. I wouldnt mind staying, but if they call me and offer CJO, Ill probably take it. Its probably stupid to not atleast apply and see what happens.

BTW... I heard almost 35 have left the first 15 days of Dec, thats a big dam number! HAHA
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Old 12-16-2021, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by IamANewbie
Latest vacancy bid at United has the most junior CA award at 8 months on property. 1,070 or so vacancies, 130+ WB FO slots unfilled. Fedex has 757 CA in MEM hired in August 2021. I planned on staying with Spirit, but this is hard to pass up. I went ahead and put my stuff in at the big 3 this morning. It sounds like they like Spirit guys too. I wouldnt mind staying, but if they call me and offer CJO, Ill probably take it. Its probably stupid to not atleast apply and see what happens.

BTW... I heard almost 35 have left the first 15 days of Dec, thats a big dam number! HAHA
I don’t blame you at all...I would do the same thing....in fact I probably will too. Been thinking about it for a while.

good luck!
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