Attrition
09-07-2022, 09:10 AM
#1921
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 551
The source of that number determines its accuracy, some pilots can go to a NonBidding status that can make it look like you have moved up depending if you look at flica/NavBlue/master seniority list/etc
09-07-2022, 09:11 AM
#1922
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,108
Not sure what you are saying. I don’t think UAL, DAL and AA are having over 50% of their new hires leaving.
You and your clueless CEO are living in Lala land. This is not going to get better. It’s just the tip of the iceberg. IMO in 2023 Spirit will lose more pilots than it can hire. Those planes will not be flying.
UAL’s Kirby is about to order over 100 new widebodies in addition to the 500 narrowbodies he’s getting over the next 60 months. He intends to hire 400 pilots a month.
This means all tier 2 carriers, Spirit, Alaska, Frontier, SWA and JetBlue will lose more pilots than they can hire and train.
Time for Spirit to get real and match or exceed Legacy carrier contracts.
You and your clueless CEO are living in Lala land. This is not going to get better. It’s just the tip of the iceberg. IMO in 2023 Spirit will lose more pilots than it can hire. Those planes will not be flying.
UAL’s Kirby is about to order over 100 new widebodies in addition to the 500 narrowbodies he’s getting over the next 60 months. He intends to hire 400 pilots a month.
This means all tier 2 carriers, Spirit, Alaska, Frontier, SWA and JetBlue will lose more pilots than they can hire and train.
Time for Spirit to get real and match or exceed Legacy carrier contracts.
09-07-2022, 09:19 AM
#1923
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
Not sure what you are saying. I don’t think UAL, DAL and AA are having over 50% of their new hires leaving.
You and your clueless CEO are living in Lala land. This is not going to get better. It’s just the tip of the iceberg. IMO in 2023 Spirit will lose more pilots than it can hire. Those planes will not be flying.
UAL’s Kirby is about to order over 100 new widebodies in addition to the 500 narrowbodies he’s getting over the next 60 months. He intends to hire 400 pilots a month.
This means all tier 2 carriers, Spirit, Alaska, Frontier, SWA and JetBlue will lose more pilots than they can hire and train.
Time for Spirit to get real and match or exceed Legacy carrier contracts.
You and your clueless CEO are living in Lala land. This is not going to get better. It’s just the tip of the iceberg. IMO in 2023 Spirit will lose more pilots than it can hire. Those planes will not be flying.
UAL’s Kirby is about to order over 100 new widebodies in addition to the 500 narrowbodies he’s getting over the next 60 months. He intends to hire 400 pilots a month.
This means all tier 2 carriers, Spirit, Alaska, Frontier, SWA and JetBlue will lose more pilots than they can hire and train.
Time for Spirit to get real and match or exceed Legacy carrier contracts.
In the mean time all things Spirit continue
09-07-2022, 09:22 AM
#1924
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 155
Not sure what you are saying. I don’t think UAL, DAL and AA are having over 50% of their new hires leaving.
You and your clueless CEO are living in Lala land. This is not going to get better. It’s just the tip of the iceberg. IMO in 2023 Spirit will lose more pilots than it can hire. Those planes will not be flying.
UAL’s Kirby is about to order over 100 new widebodies in addition to the 500 narrowbodies he’s getting over the next 60 months. He intends to hire 400 pilots a month.
This means all tier 2 carriers, Spirit, Alaska, Frontier, SWA and JetBlue will lose more pilots than they can hire and train.
Time for Spirit to get real and match or exceed Legacy carrier contracts.
You and your clueless CEO are living in Lala land. This is not going to get better. It’s just the tip of the iceberg. IMO in 2023 Spirit will lose more pilots than it can hire. Those planes will not be flying.
UAL’s Kirby is about to order over 100 new widebodies in addition to the 500 narrowbodies he’s getting over the next 60 months. He intends to hire 400 pilots a month.
This means all tier 2 carriers, Spirit, Alaska, Frontier, SWA and JetBlue will lose more pilots than they can hire and train.
Time for Spirit to get real and match or exceed Legacy carrier contracts.
09-07-2022, 09:26 AM
#1925
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
It’s sad
09-07-2022, 10:03 AM
#1926
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Position: A320 captain
Posts: 91
It really is. When you hire a bunch of guys that didn’t go to college or flew in another country for half the pay you get lowered expectations. “I’m here for QOL” I hear all the time. What QOL exactly? It’s just something their buddy from crap cargo or foreign airline xyz told them so they repeat it. Many have no idea what the actual market is like these days. Half don’t even know our own contract let alone know what’s in other contracts.
It’s sad
It’s sad
Last edited by DEM1933; 09-07-2022 at 10:23 AM.
09-07-2022, 10:28 AM
#1927
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
09-07-2022, 10:41 AM
#1928
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,908
Exactly. The flood gates have been open and junior CAs are still leaving as they were before. The displacement has been known for 7 months now. Anyone who has wanted to leave, has been trying to leave.
09-07-2022, 10:47 AM
#1929
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 1,009
I'm pretty sure college degrees were a hard requirement when 99.9% of our current pilots were in flight school. You could probably make that argument for someone starting training TODAY though.
09-07-2022, 11:00 AM
#1930
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Position: A320 captain
Posts: 91
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