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Old 09-06-2022, 07:44 PM
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Pretty sure they will get bonuses if the company hits certain metrics between now and the sale. They can't do that without stopping the bleeding. Between now and Q4 2023, we are taking on more than 40 airframes.
They can’t even staff the planes they have let alone 40 more.
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:48 PM
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They can’t even staff the planes they have let alone 40 more.
Yes, and that’s a good thing. The airplanes are coming.
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
They can’t even staff the planes they have let alone 40 more.
Are there any airlines who can staff the planes they have?
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Old 09-07-2022, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Yes, and that’s a good thing. The airplanes are coming.
One would think that is a good thing, and at a normal airline it would. But at Spirit they don't seem to care. Been like this for a full year now and management hasn't done squat to address the problem. The only problem they have been apt to address is how much to line their pocketbooks by securing a merger.
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Old 09-07-2022, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IamEssential
One would think that is a good thing, and at a normal airline it would. But at Spirit they don't seem to care. Been like this for a full year now and management hasn't done squat to address the problem. The only problem they have been apt to address is how much to line their pocketbooks by securing a merger.
As I said before, I’m sure JetBlue has tied their bonuses to certain metrics in the interim. They also have to answer to shareholders in the interim. I think the last quarter was a wake up call. I could be totally wrong, but they finally realize that they can’t out hire attrition.
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Old 09-07-2022, 05:57 AM
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Flood gates are going to open even more with the reduction what If released.
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Old 09-07-2022, 06:10 AM
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Flood gates are going to open even more with the reduction what If released.
Yep. Very real chance that B6 will be buying mainly airframes, an order book, and some relatively senior CAs if the deal actually goes through at all unless something is done. Even people who really like it here are putting in apps elsewhere. When you don’t retain enough FOs, upgrades slow to a crawl, and those who do upgrade are stuck in eternal reserve, flying with FOs that only have a few hundred hours in type on the least desirable routes. That ain’t the kind of career progression most people want.

Perhaps that’s the management plan, allow the place to go into the crapper, have B6 back out of the deal, and then go back to their sweetheart deals with F9.
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Old 09-07-2022, 06:37 AM
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Not sure why people keep saying “if” the deal goes through. It’s going to happen….good or bad, it will be approved.
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Old 09-07-2022, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Yep. Very real chance that B6 will be buying mainly airframes, an order book, and some relatively senior CAs if the deal actually goes through at all unless something is done. Even people who really like it here are putting in apps elsewhere. When you don’t retain enough FOs, upgrades slow to a crawl, and those who do upgrade are stuck in eternal reserve, flying with FOs that only have a few hundred hours in type on the least desirable routes. That ain’t the kind of career progression most people want.

Perhaps that’s the management plan, allow the place to go into the crapper, have B6 back out of the deal, and then go back to their sweetheart deals with F9.
They're also buying gate space, hangar space, and facilities.

This displacement has the most junior captain in the system as a summer 2021 hire.
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Old 09-07-2022, 06:54 AM
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Spirit needs to pay more than the legacy carriers to retain and grow. The legacies offer a lot of perks we don’t plain and simple so spirit needs to offer something that they don’t. Never gonna happen
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