Attrition
09-04-2022, 12:28 PM
#1871
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 461
Please
just
stop…
Why we are negotiating sub par pays rates on a public forum I will never understand?
Whoever said $300+ an hour for Airbus captain pay needs to get with the times. let our NC do their job without us hampering them. We will be the 5th largest airline in the country. The other 4 are trying to make fo pay start with a 2, captain pay start with a 3 and 4 isn’t far behind. This $25 or 25% BS talk doesn’t help the cause.
just
stop…
Why we are negotiating sub par pays rates on a public forum I will never understand?
Whoever said $300+ an hour for Airbus captain pay needs to get with the times. let our NC do their job without us hampering them. We will be the 5th largest airline in the country. The other 4 are trying to make fo pay start with a 2, captain pay start with a 3 and 4 isn’t far behind. This $25 or 25% BS talk doesn’t help the cause.
09-04-2022, 12:29 PM
#1872
Line holder
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: On the bus,seat 0A
Posts: 3,330
25% would put me at nearly $300/hr. Higher than a 12 year delta 321 CA. That ain’t gonna happen. $25 would put me at $263.. which is within $5 of current delta captain in same seat and seniority. Much likelier than 25%. Not to mention 25% would put a new hire at roughly $76. $86 to start with $140 second year pay with a retention bonus will certainly keep and get some people here. Not saying the previous rumor is even true but $25/hr and a bonus to entice new hires to stay seems much more plausible to me. And if the deal goes thru then a new JCBA will have to and more than likely bring pay parity with the legacies.
and attrition will never stop. People will always be enticed by widebodies , legacy names, variety , etc. spirits on time performance has been decent this summer therefore attrition is hurting the bottom line with so many X lists being handed out , but the attrition has NOT put the company on the verge of total collapse. An LOA with respectable pay/bonus will make attrition slow no doubt, and seems like a necessary and logical step to bridge the gap until all this plays out. I am fully expecting to see something along those lines ..
and attrition will never stop. People will always be enticed by widebodies , legacy names, variety , etc. spirits on time performance has been decent this summer therefore attrition is hurting the bottom line with so many X lists being handed out , but the attrition has NOT put the company on the verge of total collapse. An LOA with respectable pay/bonus will make attrition slow no doubt, and seems like a necessary and logical step to bridge the gap until all this plays out. I am fully expecting to see something along those lines ..
09-04-2022, 02:14 PM
#1875
New Hire
Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 3
So word is out that Sept. 6th all Spirit pilots are getting a pay override of $25/hour untill a new CBA/ JCBA or 2 years passed.
this is straight from a guy in new hire class and management gave a presentation too.
Also ONLY first year new hires. Once 1 year is complete you get a “signing bonus” of $45,000. And health insurance immediately!!!
this is straight from a guy in new hire class and management gave a presentation too.
Also ONLY first year new hires. Once 1 year is complete you get a “signing bonus” of $45,000. And health insurance immediately!!!
My question is what do people like you get from posts like this? You just bored and like to screw with people? Do you simply not vet information before you regurgitate it? I don’t want to assume malice so I left with only the reality that you’re the type of sheep believes everything he hears.
09-04-2022, 10:27 PM
#1876
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Always right
Posts: 94
Just called two ALPA guys and one chief pilot and 4 out of 3 of them Say it’s not happening.
My question is what do people like you get from posts like this? You just bored and like to screw with people? Do you simply not vet information before you regurgitate it? I don’t want to assume malice so I left with only the reality that you’re the type of sheep believes everything he hears.
My question is what do people like you get from posts like this? You just bored and like to screw with people? Do you simply not vet information before you regurgitate it? I don’t want to assume malice so I left with only the reality that you’re the type of sheep believes everything he hears.
it would be wise to only pay attention to actual Union/company emails. The rest is complete BS. Unless that one guy in new hire class said it, then it’s 100% true.
09-05-2022, 04:26 AM
#1878
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 3,227
Just called two ALPA guys and one chief pilot and 4 out of 3 of them Say it’s not happening.
My question is what do people like you get from posts like this? You just bored and like to screw with people? Do you simply not vet information before you regurgitate it? I don’t want to assume malice so I left with only the reality that you’re the type of sheep believes everything he hears.
My question is what do people like you get from posts like this? You just bored and like to screw with people? Do you simply not vet information before you regurgitate it? I don’t want to assume malice so I left with only the reality that you’re the type of sheep believes everything he hears.
I’m usually right 6.5 out of 5 times.
09-05-2022, 05:05 AM
#1879
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 70
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