FlyGuy2002

25% would put me at nearly $300/hr. Higher than a 12 year delta 321 CA. That ain’t gonna happen. $25 would put me at $263.. which is within $5 of current delta captain in same seat and seniority. Much likelier than 25%. Not to mention 25% would put a new hire at roughly $76. $86 to start with $140 second year pay with a retention bonus will certainly keep and get some people here. Not saying the previous rumor is even true but $25/hr and a bonus to entice new hires to stay seems much more plausible to me. And if the deal goes thru then a new JCBA will have to and more than likely bring pay parity with the legacies.

and attrition will never stop. People will always be enticed by widebodies , legacy names, variety , etc. spirits on time performance has been decent this summer therefore attrition is hurting the bottom line with so many X lists being handed out , but the attrition has NOT put the company on the verge of total collapse. An LOA with respectable pay/bonus will make attrition slow no doubt, and seems like a necessary and logical step to bridge the gap until all this plays out. I am fully expecting to see something along those lines ..

Cyio

They cut the schedules by 20%, hence we are not making any money. If we had more new hires, less attrition, we could have run a more efficient and profitable operation.

forea013

The alpa Newsletter I read mentioned negotiations next week but the current contract cannot be amended until March of 2023. I would love for something to happen before then. Are pay raises something they can do before March?

https://www.alpa.org/news-and-events...n-negotiations

FlyGuy2002

Every airline has cut schedules. That’s for a host of reasons and i for one am glad they did. Running an airline at 80% and running it respectably is better than running 100% running 50% on time performance creates more problems than it solves. Airline managements have said as much. With many airplanes coming The current schedule doesn't bother me at all. Airlines always want to grow, and increase thruput, and rest assured when some of the macro issues subside, they will pounce. So the short term schedule, redeyes, capacity constraints and the like are all
subject to change. And they will.

JulesWinfield

Make sure you’re getting union emails. The union wants a temporary agreement to bridge the gap between now and the JCBA with JetBlue.

Cyio

Yes, it will just be in the form of a TA most likely.
Sure, many are running reduced schedules but Delta, WN, UA and AA are all on track or have made profits this year, NK has not. Heck, I think Delta and WN both had record setting 2nd quarters. All of them are dealing with reduced schedules to some extent and all of them have spent considerable cash on pilots/training. Here NK sits with its head in the sand reducing schedules and running an unprofitable operation during one of the best times for an airline to exist.

forea013

No union emails yet, my start date is Oct 3rd. But thank you for that, I’ll be sure not to miss updates from the union.

forea013

Interesting. Thank you for the reply!

Halon1211

There could be an MOU pay override between the company in the union.

GrumpyCaptain

Please
just
stop…

Why we are negotiating sub par pays rates on a public forum I will never understand?

Whoever said $300+ an hour for Airbus captain pay needs to get with the times. let our NC do their job without us hampering them. We will be the 5th largest airline in the country. The other 4 are trying to make fo pay start with a 2, captain pay start with a 3 and 4 isn’t far behind. This $25 or 25% BS talk doesn’t help the cause.