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Old 09-02-2022, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
Company is willing to offer jet blue rates right out of the gate. Not sure if they want anything in return.

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Old 09-02-2022, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
I for one think a snap up to current jetblue pay rates is the logical and obvious starting point. In my seat position that’s roughly 30k a year bump in the meanwhile. Then when the deal gets approved (if it does) then we are even steven with our new colleagues and then we can fight for more in a new JCBA that will be needed to consummate the deal. Attrition will slow if that happens. It’ll never stop with the big 3 hiring. That’s to be expected. But having both sides on the same scale going into the new JCBA negotiations seems logical to me ..

they mentioned when the deal was agreed upon that they negotiated better protections from B6 for current NK employees , what exactly did that entail .. they never said. Perhaps B6 agreed to pick up a portion of said pay raises in the interim as a condition to reaching an agreement . Who knows.
We will no doubt need to end up at legacy pay rates in the final Analysis. I can’t see us getting higher than that at the moment because we can’t negotiate with a company that doesn’t own us yet .. and we very well won’t get that from a current management that will likely get dissolved. Some QOL sweeteners, nice pay bumps and 16% DC is worthwhile place to hang out until the JCBA begins in earnest. Just my opinion.
Don't forget redeye pay if the company wants to go back to flying 40% redeyes in the schedule better be worthwhile for us. And get us min day flat out so we have no more 10hr 3 days.
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Old 09-02-2022, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by icecreamfanatic
Don't forget redeye pay if the company wants to go back to flying 40% redeyes in the schedule better be worthwhile for us. And get us min day flat out so we have no more 10hr 3 days.
40% ??? you like to exaggerate now? I thought it was 50%
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Old 09-02-2022, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by povertyeagle
You lost me at "SWA is a legacy"
SWA has 11 unions and never went bankrupt. They are a mess in a slow decline.
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Old 09-02-2022, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
Just trying to decide if it’s worth the pay cut actually. I’m mid-fifties and wondering financially if I should just stay here and upgrade and make more money or leave if given the opportunity.

It wasn’t a cheap-shot, it’s just facts and kind of a warning of what’s going on the regional world. Crazy times.

I know Spirit has much better QOL than any regional, but money for retirement is really important for me now.
Go to Spirit and get the type rating. Before you finish OE you will be hired by United, AA or Delta. Take your pick.

It’s the only way Spirit will learn to match legacy pay.
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Old 09-02-2022, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
40% ??? you like to exaggerate now? I thought it was 50%
Townhall said we're a redeye airline and out of all the pairings it's going to be between 30-40% of redeye flying
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Old 09-02-2022, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by icecreamfanatic
Townhall said we're a redeye airline and out of all the pairings it's going to be between 30-40% of redeye flying
I actually don’t mind red eyes. But I’d not mind them even more with the night flying kicker that Jet Blue has…
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Old 09-02-2022, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I actually don’t mind red eyes. But I’d not mind them even more with the night flying kicker that Jet Blue has…

yes! I will sign up for them. And to the other poster I thought I only heard 30%
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Old 09-02-2022, 06:38 PM
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yes! I will sign up for them. And to the other poster I thought I only heard 30%
Either way we all agree we want the 1.5x credit or something jetblue has for the redeye night flying to make it worthwhile.
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Old 09-02-2022, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by icecreamfanatic
Either way we all agree we want the 1.5x credit or something jetblue has for the redeye night flying to make it worthwhile.
Jetblue's night override is $13 an hour
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