Attrition
#1821
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
Position: A320 captain
Posts: 91
#1822
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: Citation, left seat
Posts: 345
Source? This is the group that picks fights with labor for sport. Don’t forget the “jury duty”, slideshow of nuclear explosions, TRO and other fun games they played last time around. Yes the landscape is different but I don’t expect them to give us a single thing without trying to make us pay. I wouldn’t be surprised if this displacement is a ploy to try and mess with us. Isn’t the first time they tried that tactic.
#1823
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 469
Source? This is the group that picks fights with labor for sport. Don’t forget the “jury duty”, slideshow of nuclear explosions, TRO and other fun games they played last time around. Yes the landscape is different but I don’t expect them to give us a single thing without trying to make us pay. I wouldn’t be surprised if this displacement is a ploy to try and mess with us. Isn’t the first time they tried that tactic.
#1825
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Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 469
I for one think a snap up to current jetblue pay rates is the logical and obvious starting point. In my seat position that’s roughly 30k a year bump in the meanwhile. Then when the deal gets approved (if it does) then we are even steven with our new colleagues and then we can fight for more in a new JCBA that will be needed to consummate the deal. Attrition will slow if that happens. It’ll never stop with the big 3 hiring. That’s to be expected. But having both sides on the same scale going into the new JCBA negotiations seems logical to me ..
they mentioned when the deal was agreed upon that they negotiated better protections from B6 for current NK employees , what exactly did that entail .. they never said. Perhaps B6 agreed to pick up a portion of said pay raises in the interim as a condition to reaching an agreement . Who knows.
We will no doubt need to end up at legacy pay rates in the final Analysis. I can’t see us getting higher than that at the moment because we can’t negotiate with a company that doesn’t own us yet .. and we very well won’t get that from a current management that will likely get dissolved. Some QOL sweeteners, nice pay bumps and 16% DC is worthwhile place to hang out until the JCBA begins in earnest. Just my opinion.
they mentioned when the deal was agreed upon that they negotiated better protections from B6 for current NK employees , what exactly did that entail .. they never said. Perhaps B6 agreed to pick up a portion of said pay raises in the interim as a condition to reaching an agreement . Who knows.
We will no doubt need to end up at legacy pay rates in the final Analysis. I can’t see us getting higher than that at the moment because we can’t negotiate with a company that doesn’t own us yet .. and we very well won’t get that from a current management that will likely get dissolved. Some QOL sweeteners, nice pay bumps and 16% DC is worthwhile place to hang out until the JCBA begins in earnest. Just my opinion.
Last edited by FlyGuy2002; 09-02-2022 at 10:42 AM.
#1829
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 1,028
#1830
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 70
I for one think a snap up to current jetblue pay rates is the logical and obvious starting point. In my seat position that’s roughly 30k a year bump in the meanwhile. Then when the deal gets approved (if it does) then we are even steven with our new colleagues and then we can fight for more in a new JCBA that will be needed to consummate the deal. Attrition will slow if that happens. It’ll never stop with the big 3 hiring. That’s to be expected. But having both sides on the same scale going into the new JCBA negotiations seems logical to me ..
they mentioned when the deal was agreed upon that they negotiated better protections from B6 for current NK employees , what exactly did that entail .. they never said. Perhaps B6 agreed to pick up a portion of said pay raises in the interim as a condition to reaching an agreement . Who knows.
We will no doubt need to end up at legacy pay rates in the final Analysis. I can’t see us getting higher than that at the moment because we can’t negotiate with a company that doesn’t own us yet .. and we very well won’t get that from a current management that will likely get dissolved. Some QOL sweeteners, nice pay bumps and 16% DC is worthwhile place to hang out until the JCBA begins in earnest. Just my opinion.
they mentioned when the deal was agreed upon that they negotiated better protections from B6 for current NK employees , what exactly did that entail .. they never said. Perhaps B6 agreed to pick up a portion of said pay raises in the interim as a condition to reaching an agreement . Who knows.
We will no doubt need to end up at legacy pay rates in the final Analysis. I can’t see us getting higher than that at the moment because we can’t negotiate with a company that doesn’t own us yet .. and we very well won’t get that from a current management that will likely get dissolved. Some QOL sweeteners, nice pay bumps and 16% DC is worthwhile place to hang out until the JCBA begins in earnest. Just my opinion.
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