Attrition
09-01-2022, 11:18 AM
#1801
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I’m not dogging Spirit, but the reality is that some regionals are paying more money through training, and the first year. And if you upgrade to CA in a couple years at these regionals, it’s more than most FO pay at Spirit.
Is your management even aware of this? This could severely dry up your regional FO new hire pipeline that you’ve depended on for years. Pretty soon you’ll be competing with the regionals for 1500 hour CFI’s.
09-01-2022, 11:20 AM
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Yeah, I’d be at $164/hr if I upgrade to CA. That’s 10 year FO pay at Spirit.
I’m not dogging Spirit, but the reality is that some regionals are paying more money through training, and the first year. And if you upgrade to CA in a couple years at these regionals, it’s more than most FO pay at Spirit.
Is your management even aware of this? This could severely dry up your regional FO new hire pipeline that you’ve depended on for years. Pretty soon you’ll be competing with the regionals for 1500 hour CFI’s.
I’m not dogging Spirit, but the reality is that some regionals are paying more money through training, and the first year. And if you upgrade to CA in a couple years at these regionals, it’s more than most FO pay at Spirit.
Is your management even aware of this? This could severely dry up your regional FO new hire pipeline that you’ve depended on for years. Pretty soon you’ll be competing with the regionals for 1500 hour CFI’s.
09-01-2022, 11:34 AM
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Yes
Unless you're leaving a situation where you're currently commuting and you could live in a Spirit base I would recommend staying put and upgrading. If you're just coming to get the type and bail then go to Frontier. At least you'll have insurance and good pay while you're there.
Spirit should be the last resort to use as a stepping stone now. EVERY other bus operator pays more.
Unless you're leaving a situation where you're currently commuting and you could live in a Spirit base I would recommend staying put and upgrading. If you're just coming to get the type and bail then go to Frontier. At least you'll have insurance and good pay while you're there.
Spirit should be the last resort to use as a stepping stone now. EVERY other bus operator pays more.
09-01-2022, 11:57 AM
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Yes
Unless you're leaving a situation where you're currently commuting and you could live in a Spirit base I would recommend staying put and upgrading. If you're just coming to get the type and bail then go to Frontier. At least you'll have insurance and good pay while you're there.
Spirit should be the last resort to use as a stepping stone now. EVERY other bus operator pays more.
Unless you're leaving a situation where you're currently commuting and you could live in a Spirit base I would recommend staying put and upgrading. If you're just coming to get the type and bail then go to Frontier. At least you'll have insurance and good pay while you're there.
Spirit should be the last resort to use as a stepping stone now. EVERY other bus operator pays more.
If I liked it that much I could see myself staying until retirement in a decade.
09-01-2022, 12:10 PM
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09-01-2022, 03:45 PM
#1808
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I can't peak for NK but I'm over at F9 and im paying over $100 more per month for my health insurance at F9 than I did at PSA.
09-01-2022, 05:16 PM
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Just trying to decide if it’s worth the pay cut actually. I’m mid-fifties and wondering financially if I should just stay here and upgrade and make more money or leave if given the opportunity.
It wasn’t a cheap-shot, it’s just facts and kind of a warning of what’s going on the regional world. Crazy times.
I know Spirit has much better QOL than any regional, but money for retirement is really important for me now.
It wasn’t a cheap-shot, it’s just facts and kind of a warning of what’s going on the regional world. Crazy times.
I know Spirit has much better QOL than any regional, but money for retirement is really important for me now.
NK really isn't a good option for you given your age, but if you really want to be here then see what happens with the interview. The problem with waiting to see how things play out is that HR will have stacks upon stacks of applicants if we somehow get some crazy gains in the form of an LOA/TA. I personally wouldn't bet the farm on that, but then again crazier things have happened (e.g. Mesa getting industry leading pay rates...wow).
09-01-2022, 06:12 PM
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i think he was just pointing out what ridiculously low first year pay nk has, especially when you consider training pay and the lack of insurance for new hires. It is the lowest in the majors - by far. If you don’t believe that is a proper fact to point out in a thread on attrition, then you are an idiot. But we are all happy you love it where you are now - i would assume a ca, which is something new hires here won’t see in five years with the current rate of attrition. But you got yours, so what the h€||, right?
ferst yer perrrrrr!!!!!
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