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Old 08-05-2022, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Leverage over whom? The current management is doing their own resumes. They can cut any deal now they want, just to avoid the nuisance factor. No skin off their noses if it gives the pilot group leverage against the JCBA. That wasn’t the deal they were looking to to begin with.
H€||, they might just give an industry leading contract to spite B6 management for screwing over their sweetheart deals with F9.
B6 is going to pay someone, probably TC to run the show until its all done. That person's golden parachute will be tied to the performance of the airline. I wouldn't expect a windfall out of this.
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Old 08-05-2022, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sioux8ships
Which Ted and Bendo probably won’t do, since attrition isn’t something they admit is an issue. Ted says- they can leave if they want.

Such value as an employee here.

you realize we canceled 40+ flights today?
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Old 08-05-2022, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by IWalkJun12
you realize we canceled 40+ flights today?
Because of attrition?
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Old 08-05-2022, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by IWalkJun12
you realize we canceled 40+ flights today?
we didnt that poorly compared to everyone else. AA+regional feed did much worse
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Old 08-05-2022, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1
Because of attrition?
We've been out of the news lately for meltdowns and cancellations. Why do you think that is? They've cut flying nearly 25% due to staffing.
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Old 08-05-2022, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
We've been out of the news lately for meltdowns and cancellations. Why do you think that is? They've cut flying nearly 25% due to staffing.
I agree with that. I was questioning 40+ flight cancellations that happened today that the other poster was referring to.
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Old 08-05-2022, 09:48 PM
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I'm sure their spin machine is preparing for the large 2nd Q earnings loss that is forecast to be revealed next week.

Problem with this ULCC Casm laser beam is all of these schedule reductions really exacerbate the damage to their sole business strategy which is low Casm at any cost.
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Old 08-06-2022, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by IamEssential
It's not good, not good at all. Without significant expansion you have another SWA situation with decade or longer upgrades. How that may change with the B6 merger I have no clue. But Spirit is a VERY young pilot group.
Hence why it worked well for pilot movement, when the prospect of adding over 100 new aircraft in the next 5 years, was at play. NK alone or NK/F9 would have been a great set up for organic seniority movement.
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Old 08-06-2022, 05:05 AM
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Hence why it worked well for pilot movement, when the prospect of adding over 100 new aircraft in the next 5 years, was at play. NK alone or NK/F9 would have been a great set up for organic seniority movement.
300 to 400 planes isn’t that much movement. And in those five years under Indigoo we still wouldn’t have had a JCBA. Just 25% larger seniority list all hired at 1000-1500 hours that you have to babysit.

Maybe the hiring stats won’t be different w JetBlue but at least you’ll be getting paid nicely for the babysitting

Not to be rude but anyone that still is looking for quick movement you may still get it Frontier. If you really think the ULCC model can work at scale in this country they are hiring. I’m pretty sure it cannot so if I wanted movement as my sole reason to pick an airline I’d be picking American.

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Old 08-06-2022, 05:11 AM
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Sorry but once AA hires their last retirement newhire, upgrades will be stagnant for almost every airline. 8-10 year upgrades will be the norm. This isn’t the regionals, people stay and movement will be limited. Sorry, but this is what it is. So best go to somewhere where FOs can make a great living as well and not needing an upgrade to have a rewarding career.
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