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Old 05-24-2022, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Also, plenty of 10 hour 3 days.
10 hour 3 days not allowed at JB. How about F9?
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Old 05-24-2022, 08:33 AM
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On the flip side seeing more and more 4 and 5 leg day trips with 10-11 hour overnights, high credit but also highly fatiguing. Real fun to operate into IAH and then get told to do a SAP turn too. People I beg, we need more 8 hour block days with international turns coming off short rest.
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Old 05-24-2022, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
.. if the F9 deal doesn’t pass then fine. They said they will plan to remain stand-alone.
Just because they SAY that doesn't make it so.
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Old 05-24-2022, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
On the flip side seeing more and more 4 and 5 leg day trips with 10-11 hour overnights, high credit but also highly fatiguing. Real fun to operate into IAH and then get told to do a SAP turn too. People I beg, we need more 8 hour block days with international turns coming off short rest.
This is what a fatigue program is meant for. If you’re not fit, then don’t sign.
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Old 05-24-2022, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
those 4 day trips you talk about are really like 3.25 day trips. You leave late the first day and get back super early day for if not even at like 1 AM. At least that’s how I’ve been seeing it.

And that’s what we have rigs for
Everywhere but us and frontier has min calendar day. We are the only two dumps that still have “duty period”
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Old 05-24-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
10 hour 3 days not allowed at JB. How about F9?
Frontier and us. See a trend?
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Old 05-24-2022, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
Everywhere but us and frontier has min calendar day. We are the only two dumps that still have “duty period”
But I thought people wanted the F9 merger because the QOL at spirit together with F9 would be better? I understand you can drop to 0, but if you eventually have to pick something up, would this be the garbage in the open time pot?
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Old 05-24-2022, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
could you please explain how your QOL has been eroding away?

and what is a “greedy” pairing? Are they forcing you to fly and not get paid? I’m on the edge of my seat to hear what a greedy pairing is.
It's a TROLL
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Old 05-24-2022, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by godsgift2aviatn
It's a TROLL
YOU would know, as you have a mirror and know what one looks like.
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Old 05-24-2022, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LoopsMcDoops
Not what I've seen. FOs are running for the door...the company wants to upset families and displace pilots by the hundreds out of their bases...and we're told we are already paid enough. The company wants to do day turns so they don't have to pay for hotels and per diem. They say the reasoning is to improve operational reliability....yet they don't simply invest in the required infrastructure to support the size of airline we've become. It's a daily S show out there and we on the front line have to deal with an overly frugal management team who expect us to bail them out when times are tough.

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