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03-20-2021, 03:16 PM

#31

AllOva736

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

So let me ask this, if I’m on an 8 month EIL and I’m not required to have a current medical or be a current qualified pilot, your are telling me that I’m still am an ACM and you want me to show you my current medical (which I don’t have)?

or some other leave such as FMLA

if you’re too dumb or lazy to get a medical while on EIL you don’t deserve to use your privileges. If you showed up to my flight
( not possible because I’m also EIL ) I’d tell you to get bent for literally taking zero initiative and thinking you’re special.

03-20-2021, 03:48 PM

#32

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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH

I’ve commuted half my career and never had a problem. I always stop
up and say hi. When a jumpseater comes up for a ride, I don’t expect the whole kiss the ring spiel. We are all just trying to goto work or go home and see our families. If you expect your own teammates to pull out all the documents just to sit in back and have a nice conversation with you then so be it. You do you. Occupying the actual jumpseat is a different animal and I will ask to see their stuff...

I expect anyone that is actually Jumpseating whether in the back, up front, company employee or not to have their ID and certs out and ready. I shouldn’t have to ask and they should expect I will. When I’m the one asking for the ride I have everything out for them company or not. I don’t personally know all 2600 of us. Don’t know most from Adam. Those I do know personally I will even ask “you have your certs with you and they are current right?”

We have had issues with people not asking for the proper identification when jumpseaters ride in the back. Don’t let it come back to bite you because you are too cool to ask or just don’t care. It’s CYA and doing your job not being king of the Jumpseat.

03-20-2021, 04:07 PM

#33

Halon1211

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

You are missing the point. I’m just trying to show you a situation where you are a Spirit pilot at the moment but you are not qualified pilot at the moment (through no fault of your own) and you are getting a ride as an employee and not as a pilot.

I would love for a captain to try to think they can deny me a ride as a non-rev even though I am not asking for a ride. Lol

I am riding as a Spirit employee, not asking for a ride a pilot.

Now If I sign a CASS form or list in CASS, then that is a different ball game.

03-20-2021, 04:34 PM

#34

CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

You can even jumpseat with a medical downgraded to 2nd class privileges. So even if you let your first class lapse, you still hold valid 2nd class privileges (based on age) for 6 months.

I let my medical privileges downgrade to second class while on EIL and would still be able to jumpseat. Don’t need a first class medical to jump on Spirit.

Zero reason to maintain a first class on EIL. 0.0 reason

03-20-2021, 05:06 PM

#35

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Ah. Reminds me of the time an AA captain blocked my path while deplaning to berate me in front of passengers over not asking for the Jumpseat.... after I had non-revved as an AE employee. Same dude that mentioned he was in the military in every PA

03-20-2021, 06:10 PM

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Oh for ****’s sake! This thread needs a derail! Who wants to start??

Boring colored cars (white, black, silver, grey...). Or actual colors (red, green, blue.... maybe yellow.... BARF!)

03-20-2021, 06:21 PM

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Halon1211

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Originally Posted by Tranquility

Oh for ****’s sake! This thread needs a derail! Who wants to start??

Boring colored cars (white, black, silver, grey...). Or actual colors (red, green, blue.... maybe yellow.... BARF!)

lime green Miata?

03-20-2021, 06:30 PM

#38

AllOva736

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

well you didn’t specify if you listed for the JS or to ride in the back but sell it any way you want. If you don’t have a current medical you will have the same privileges that my wife or any other non rev person has. That’s the point I was making. You know even if you’re not currently flying but an active employee you can JS if you also have a medical right? If the seats in the back are full, you will stay at the gate just like any other person.

03-20-2021, 06:35 PM

#39

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

just saying if you can’t deal with getting a medical I’ll give you no more respect than any other non rev. We both know that even if you weren’t legal you would still list for the JS. You’re trash, and you couldn’t care less.