doublebed

Ignorant, pure and simple. Should be reported to the JS committee

BeechedJet

The longer I work for this company, the less time I spend trying to figure out why our gate agents make the decisions they do. I mean who here hasn’t had someone try to charge them at least once for bags when that booked ticket very clearly says 1|1.

I ask myself when I see someone in uniform getting off the plane, especially someone OAL, did we die? If the answer is no, then life goes on. I’m reading these once in a lifetime instances of people getting trouble because someone got listed for a JS and they didn’t check in. If I never see that paperwork and no one told me about it, I highly doubt I’m on the hook for it. What that person does in the back is their problem. If someone sticks their head in the cockpit and says “I’m in back”, I can easily stop them and ask them to see their medical n crap. I don’t expect anyone to kiss the ring, neither should you. Maybe if it’s someone from an airline that is notorious for yelling at me from my commuter days of not remembering the differences between the JS in a MD-80, 90, and 717 I might go through or expect the whole formal dance routine. Other than that, let’s keep our airline the way it is. Just because we’re getting bigger doesn’t mean so does our ego.

Cyio

For my part, yes I understand it. The way some of the initial responses were written made it seem different, as in every non-rev had to check in.

Non-Revving with no JS listing= Not checking in
DH= Not checking in
CASS or JS listing= Checking in with all req docs.

Guppydriver95

Nailed it!

Guppydriver95

as an aside- I’m always appreciative when non rev pilots or flight attendant stick their head in to say hi. It’s nice to know we have extra assets in the back, if needed. Again, not required.

Bat2210

The problem is there are so many ways a pilot can be in the back. And each Airline has there own procedure. And just for general information. The NTSB report on United 232 states that the flight attendant came to the cockpit and told Captain Haynes that there was a DC-10 check airman in first class, and could come up if needed. Captain Haynes said send him up.

Guppydriver95

correct about individual airline protocols for processing the paperwork being different. But, what never changes is the status of anyone who accesses the airplane through the CASS system. That’s a universal concept that the FAA has been clear about.

turbojet28

I still always abide by the standard etiquette of asking for a ride when utilizing J/S privileges, but I have to be honest, I would vote in a heartbeat to change the etiquette to only encompass those pilots who are actually going to be riding in the flight deck or cabin jumpseats. If a pilot from any airline is assigned a normal cabin seat, I simply don’t care whether or not they “check-in” or “ask permission”. Lots of times you are just getting interrupted during cockpit preparations in order to have this silly interaction. In a truly dire abnormal situation that may require additional help, I think almost any professional pilot would think to solicit help from the cabin if need be.

Come to think of it, last time I rode on DL, I had a cabin seat, and when I went up front to say Hi, the CA in a friendly manner mentioned that their policy no longer required the “check-in” for OAL riders if they are assigned a cabin seat.

rickair7777

Or the gate could just give you a slip of paper with the seat number so you know.

Although I don't mind chatting with pilots from other airlines or even bases/fleets at my airline. If I'm too busy I'll politely let them know.

turbojet28

That would be a good idea also. I like that.

I’m also perfectly happy to chat, just as a matter of general politeness/friendliness, but I have tried and failed to understand the hidden “litmus” test of the “begging for a ride” thing. It’s my opinion that it is simply time for the profession to move on from that.