Interview
10-03-2021, 03:18 PM
#581
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: 757/767
Posts: 128
A friend of mine wants to get hired at Spirit and asked me about the 5 year rumor of having no checkride failures. He had a TTP Train-to-proficiency event in a recent PC. He is now concerned that this will be seen as a failure? He passed the checkride but had to retake a maneuver from what I understand. Unfortunately I have no idea how this is rated, especially if it’s PRIA reportable. Maybe someone knows?
10-03-2021, 03:35 PM
#582
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Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 988
Spoken like a true person who didn’t have to deal with it lol and I’m glad you think I failed because I didn’t take it seriously. Sort of a broad statement. Psa prepared us relentlessly to pass the exam by teaching us certain things. I only got a couple questions on those subjects. My sim partner along with about 10 others in class also did not pass so I guess we’re all just a bunch of entitled people. So after I failed,,,I had to take training the next day based on all the stuff I didn’t get asked on the first exam. The next day I retook it and the examiner cut it 15 mins short cause it was clear I was good. Sort of odd isn’t it?
Examiner: what’s the lowest visibility an FO can take off?
Me: 1800rvr
Examiner: explain
Me: at 1600rvr or 1/4 mile the captain has to do it.
Examiner: ok. Well what if the rvr was 1605 or 1610?
Me: well that’s not reported so I wouldn’t know if it was that.
Examiner: I didn’t ask what was reported. I asked what’s the lowest you can take off
Questions like that seem like a totally legit reason to bust someone….
Examiner: what’s the lowest visibility an FO can take off?
Me: 1800rvr
Examiner: explain
Me: at 1600rvr or 1/4 mile the captain has to do it.
Examiner: ok. Well what if the rvr was 1605 or 1610?
Me: well that’s not reported so I wouldn’t know if it was that.
Examiner: I didn’t ask what was reported. I asked what’s the lowest you can take off
Questions like that seem like a totally legit reason to bust someone….
10-03-2021, 03:42 PM
#583
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Joined APC: Jun 2021
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 655
The last part of the post specifies that there were more than one question on the type of level. So no it’s not the only one I got wrong.
I’m no expert but I’m going to guess most people don’t get every question right.
I’m no expert but I’m going to guess most people don’t get every question right.
10-03-2021, 04:51 PM
#584
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,279
CRJdriver2017 hey you’re famous! You might be like the next Erin brockovich or Norma Rae?! Blow the lid off this thing!
How ugly might it get?
How ugly might it get?
10-03-2021, 05:03 PM
#585
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,954
CRJdriver2017 hey you’re famous! You might be like the next Erin brockovich or Norma Rae?! Blow the lid off this thing!
How ugly might it get?
How ugly might it get?
10-03-2021, 07:20 PM
#586
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,203
Not taking up his cause. Just requesting other people’s opinion (and experience) about the issue he’s claiming. Also wondering how low certain regional managements might go to retain people.
Let’s face it, if the long awaited pilot shortage is finally upon us it won’t be the majors that will be affected first or most, it’ll be the regionals. Already some of them are ponying up signing and retention bonuses that were unheard of preCOVID. What else might they do?
Oh, and we need to do something about training pay and first year pay in the next contract, because it sucks…
Let’s face it, if the long awaited pilot shortage is finally upon us it won’t be the majors that will be affected first or most, it’ll be the regionals. Already some of them are ponying up signing and retention bonuses that were unheard of preCOVID. What else might they do?
Oh, and we need to do something about training pay and first year pay in the next contract, because it sucks…
10-03-2021, 07:28 PM
#587
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Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 1,035
A friend of mine wants to get hired at Spirit and asked me about the 5 year rumor of having no checkride failures. He had a TTP Train-to-proficiency event in a recent PC. He is now concerned that this will be seen as a failure? He passed the checkride but had to retake a maneuver from what I understand. Unfortunately I have no idea how this is rated, especially if it’s PRIA reportable. Maybe someone knows?
10-03-2021, 07:56 PM
#588
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 159
Spoken like a true person who didn’t have to deal with it lol and I’m glad you think I failed because I didn’t take it seriously. Sort of a broad statement. Psa prepared us relentlessly to pass the exam by teaching us certain things. I only got a couple questions on those subjects. My sim partner along with about 10 others in class also did not pass so I guess we’re all just a bunch of entitled people. So after I failed,,,I had to take training the next day based on all the stuff I didn’t get asked on the first exam. The next day I retook it and the examiner cut it 15 mins short cause it was clear I was good. Sort of odd isn’t it?
Examiner: what’s the lowest visibility an FO can take off?
Me: 1800rvr
Examiner: explain
Me: at 1600rvr or 1/4 mile the captain has to do it.
Examiner: ok. Well what if the rvr was 1605 or 1610?
Me: well that’s not reported so I wouldn’t know if it was that.
Examiner: I didn’t ask what was reported. I asked what’s the lowest you can take off
Questions like that seem like a totally legit reason to bust someone….
Examiner: what’s the lowest visibility an FO can take off?
Me: 1800rvr
Examiner: explain
Me: at 1600rvr or 1/4 mile the captain has to do it.
Examiner: ok. Well what if the rvr was 1605 or 1610?
Me: well that’s not reported so I wouldn’t know if it was that.
Examiner: I didn’t ask what was reported. I asked what’s the lowest you can take off
Questions like that seem like a totally legit reason to bust someone….
sounds like a JC oral
10-04-2021, 03:33 AM
#589
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,401
Spoken like a true person who didn’t have to deal with it lol and I’m glad you think I failed because I didn’t take it seriously. Sort of a broad statement. Psa prepared us relentlessly to pass the exam by teaching us certain things. I only got a couple questions on those subjects. My sim partner along with about 10 others in class also did not pass so I guess we’re all just a bunch of entitled people. So after I failed,,,I had to take training the next day based on all the stuff I didn’t get asked on the first exam. The next day I retook it and the examiner cut it 15 mins short cause it was clear I was good. Sort of odd isn’t it?
Examiner: what’s the lowest visibility an FO can take off?
Me: 1800rvr
Examiner: explain
Me: at 1600rvr or 1/4 mile the captain has to do it.
Examiner: ok. Well what if the rvr was 1605 or 1610?
Me: well that’s not reported so I wouldn’t know if it was that.
Examiner: I didn’t ask what was reported. I asked what’s the lowest you can take off
Questions like that seem like a totally legit reason to bust someone….
Examiner: what’s the lowest visibility an FO can take off?
Me: 1800rvr
Examiner: explain
Me: at 1600rvr or 1/4 mile the captain has to do it.
Examiner: ok. Well what if the rvr was 1605 or 1610?
Me: well that’s not reported so I wouldn’t know if it was that.
Examiner: I didn’t ask what was reported. I asked what’s the lowest you can take off
Questions like that seem like a totally legit reason to bust someone….
10-04-2021, 04:26 AM
#590
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Joined APC: Jun 2021
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 655
Though you are correct about it not being reported, IMO that came off as kind of like a smart as* response. Now if you were being light hearted, you could have said that answer and then stated but technically I guess I could take off in your scenario. I like to make the oral exam as easy going as possible but that's just me.
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