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Old 09-03-2021, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
When were we ever trying to be that? When were our hiring standards different or subpar compared to anyone else's in recent years? I can't stand this attitude amongst some here that our pilots are somehow lesser than other airlines. This attitude has carried over in the form of apathy and lower expectations during past negotiations, and it continues to this day with the abysmal participation rate in the latest contract survey. This crap has to stop.
Whooaaa- deep breath, lower the heart rate. It was sarcasm and a joke. Maybe you weren’t around when a felony helped you get hired here.. I kid I kid. No check ride failures here.

Yes, I agree. As someone who saw firsthand how poor our participation was and the apathy of this group. Definitely needs to stop!
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Old 09-03-2021, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
FWIW, I heard recruiting was currently removing any applicants from consideration that had a failure in a specified timespan. Not sure if it was 5 years but I would think that would be close
Just as a datapoint, My friend started there a few months ago and he had busted his first 121 initial ride 2 years prior. So its not 5 years for sure.
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Old 09-04-2021, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sioux8ships
Whooaaa- deep breath, lower the heart rate. It was sarcasm and a joke. Maybe you weren’t around when a felony helped you get hired here.. I kid I kid. No check ride failures here.

Yes, I agree. As someone who saw firsthand how poor our participation was and the apathy of this group. Definitely needs to stop!
Sorry, lol. It's tough to tell who's serious sometimes because some of the senior guys here have battered woman syndrome.
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Old 09-04-2021, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
Sorry, lol. It's tough to tell who's serious sometimes because some of the senior guys here have battered woman syndrome.
Some also battered women
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Old 09-06-2021, 04:17 PM
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How far out is Spirit scheduling classes right now?
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Old 09-06-2021, 05:07 PM
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Just as a data point, my buddy got the TBNT from Spirit with two 121 check ride failures in the last 5 years. a few months later he is now a United new hire. So if Spirit really is taking the approach that no failures are acceptable, I highly doubt we will have an easy time hiring given that the legacies will be swooping up the perfect applicants along with the not so perfect. What does that leave us?
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Old 09-06-2021, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Anderair
Just as a data point, my buddy got the TBNT from Spirit with two 121 check ride failures in the last 5 years. a few months later he is now a United new hire. So if Spirit really is taking the approach that no failures are acceptable, I highly doubt we will have an easy time hiring given that the legacies will be swooping up the perfect applicants along with the not so perfect. What does that leave us?
Spirit is not “taking the approach that no failures are acceptable“
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Old 09-06-2021, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
Spirit is not “taking the approach that no failures are acceptable“
Only if we were hiring pilots for the Apollo 13 crew, they wouldn’t accept it.



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Old 09-06-2021, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Anderair
Just as a data point, my buddy got the TBNT from Spirit with two 121 check ride failures in the last 5 years. a few months later he is now a United new hire. So if Spirit really is taking the approach that no failures are acceptable, I highly doubt we will have an easy time hiring given that the legacies will be swooping up the perfect applicants along with the not so perfect. What does that leave us?
They probably sniffed out he would be leaving when United called..
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For those of you concerned about upgrade times at spirit, looks like things will be moving a little bit faster now with 15 additional new airplanes being leased.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/seeking...5-new-aircraft
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