Spirit Airlines Training
#81
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#83
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Got the Vax and I officially DGAF about Covid. At the point where everyone that wants the vax has been able to get one we should be able to toss the masks IMO. If it’s still spreading and people are dying via those that chose not to get the vax at that point there’s nothing we can do. My give a poop meter on covid and masks are at zero at this point. Aren’t we pretty much at the point where it’s available to everyone in just about every state? So really we are a month from anyone that wants it can be fully vaxed?
#84
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Got the Vax and I officially DGAF about Covid. At the point where everyone that wants the vax has been able to get one we should be able to toss the masks IMO. If it’s still spreading and people are dying via those that chose not to get the vax at that point there’s nothing we can do. My give a poop meter on covid and masks are at zero at this point. Aren’t we pretty much at the point where it’s available to everyone in just about every state? So really we are a month from anyone that wants it can be fully vaxed?
#85
Got the Vax and I officially DGAF about Covid. At the point where everyone that wants the vax has been able to get one we should be able to toss the masks IMO. If it’s still spreading and people are dying via those that chose not to get the vax at that point there’s nothing we can do. My give a poop meter on covid and masks are at zero at this point. Aren’t we pretty much at the point where it’s available to everyone in just about every state? So really we are a month from anyone that wants it can be fully vaxed?
#86
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My first ever heavy aircraft V1 cut was done 1 sim before my checkride. Big boy approach, for sure. You really do need to get ahead of the curve and stay there or it'll be rough no matter what your background is. They do NOT coddle ex-military folks like some companies do.
We all wore slacks/khaki pants and polo or button shirts with nice shoes. I don't think anyone got additional training on how to dress themselves.
The joke was that Spirit hired on personality and washed out poseurs during training. The class behind mine had 2 Mesa CAs sent back to Mesa to start over as first year FOs after their 3rd sim, with FAA documentation following them for the rest of their lives.
We lost 3-4 training days due to a hurricane. They didn't re-flow the training, they just took away our days off. That hurt some of us more than others. It certainly set me back.
I have a personal rule to never fly a checkride I'm not confident I'll pass. I used that rule to convince my instructor to move my one-day "weekend" to the day before my oral exam instead of having me do my oral the last day of a 7-day work week. I'm not ashamed to admit I was behind the curve and needed a study day, and I'd have quit before going to that oral unprepared. I guess he believed me because they shuffled the schedule and I made it through just fine, but nothing about it was easy since it was my first time for just about everything there and second chances were not always offered.
My sim partner just about quit too. He unbuckled, took off his headset, and started motoring his seat back in the sim 10 minutes before the end of our 4th sim because he'd had enough of a particularly condescending instructor's nonsense. A short non-verbal conversation between us (while the instructor droned on about something stupid) resulted in him buckling back in and we finished up without further incident. But he was about 6.9 seconds from going down the sim escape rope. True effing story.
I found value in the 320 apps. The oral is pretty much you go through the flow, and the check airman stops you and asks about the systems and logic behind the switch or button (airbus, right?). The app is PERFECT for this, since each button/switch is clickable and pops up relevant limits and logic. Several of us in the class would use the app down in the hotel bar area for small group study, in addition to pinning up the cockpit posters and running through the flows with our sim partners or whoever else wanted to run through them. Small group study participation wasn't crucial but it helped me out quite a bit so I recommend finding at least one or two others to go over flows and systems with during your off time.
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#87
The training program from what I hear from FOs on the line has made some great improvements. The fact that there are actually planned multiple days off in a row now is amazing in itself. When I went through we got our first two days off in a row I think after week 4 and that was only because of an instructor shortage. Spirit won’t drag your training out past 2 months. I hear about other airlines getting people done in 4. That seems insane to me. Spirit isn’t teaching people how to fly approaches or complex jets, they’re teaching them to be able to fly Spirit planes safely on the line. I loved our instructors, I hated the pace. Instruction is still top notch everytime I go through the school house. Pace has improved.
#88
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Joined APC: May 2019
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Training was great and I actually preferred the compact nature of it as I hate living in a training hotel longer then I have to.
That being said there is zero time to get behind. Come in prepared knowing what your supposed to know and spending almost all free time studying and nobody should have any problems.
also if you show that your trying hard they will work with you to a point as far as extra training goes.
That being said there is zero time to get behind. Come in prepared knowing what your supposed to know and spending almost all free time studying and nobody should have any problems.
also if you show that your trying hard they will work with you to a point as far as extra training goes.
#89
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Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,332
Dunno if it's changed in the last 4 years but when I went through it, the training was good but fairly compressed. Most of the other opinions in this thread match my own, regarding the quality and pacing. It's "good" training, but compressed.
My first ever heavy aircraft V1 cut was done 1 sim before my checkride. Big boy approach, for sure. You really do need to get ahead of the curve and stay there or it'll be rough no matter what your background is. They do NOT coddle ex-military folks like some companies do.
We all wore slacks/khaki pants and polo or button shirts with nice shoes. I don't think anyone got additional training on how to dress themselves.
The joke was that Spirit hired on personality and washed out poseurs during training. The class behind mine had 2 Mesa CAs sent back to Mesa to start over as first year FOs after their 3rd sim, with FAA documentation following them for the rest of their lives.
We lost 3-4 training days due to a hurricane. They didn't re-flow the training, they just took away our days off. That hurt some of us more than others. It certainly set me back.
I have a personal rule to never fly a checkride I'm not confident I'll pass. I used that rule to convince my instructor to move my one-day "weekend" to the day before my oral exam instead of having me do my oral the last day of a 7-day work week. I'm not ashamed to admit I was behind the curve and needed a study day, and I'd have quit before going to that oral unprepared. I guess he believed me because they shuffled the schedule and I made it through just fine, but nothing about it was easy since it was my first time for just about everything there and second chances were not always offered.
My sim partner just about quit too. He unbuckled, took off his headset, and started motoring his seat back in the sim 10 minutes before the end of our 4th sim because he'd had enough of a particularly condescending instructor's nonsense. A short non-verbal conversation between us (while the instructor droned on about something stupid) resulted in him buckling back in and we finished up without further incident. But he was about 6.9 seconds from going down the sim escape rope. True effing story.
I found value in the 320 apps. The oral is pretty much you go through the flow, and the check airman stops you and asks about the systems and logic behind the switch or button (airbus, right?). The app is PERFECT for this, since each button/switch is clickable and pops up relevant limits and logic. Several of us in the class would use the app down in the hotel bar area for small group study, in addition to pinning up the cockpit posters and running through the flows with our sim partners or whoever else wanted to run through them. Small group study participation wasn't crucial but it helped me out quite a bit so I recommend finding at least one or two others to go over flows and systems with during your off time.
My first ever heavy aircraft V1 cut was done 1 sim before my checkride. Big boy approach, for sure. You really do need to get ahead of the curve and stay there or it'll be rough no matter what your background is. They do NOT coddle ex-military folks like some companies do.
We all wore slacks/khaki pants and polo or button shirts with nice shoes. I don't think anyone got additional training on how to dress themselves.
The joke was that Spirit hired on personality and washed out poseurs during training. The class behind mine had 2 Mesa CAs sent back to Mesa to start over as first year FOs after their 3rd sim, with FAA documentation following them for the rest of their lives.
We lost 3-4 training days due to a hurricane. They didn't re-flow the training, they just took away our days off. That hurt some of us more than others. It certainly set me back.
I have a personal rule to never fly a checkride I'm not confident I'll pass. I used that rule to convince my instructor to move my one-day "weekend" to the day before my oral exam instead of having me do my oral the last day of a 7-day work week. I'm not ashamed to admit I was behind the curve and needed a study day, and I'd have quit before going to that oral unprepared. I guess he believed me because they shuffled the schedule and I made it through just fine, but nothing about it was easy since it was my first time for just about everything there and second chances were not always offered.
My sim partner just about quit too. He unbuckled, took off his headset, and started motoring his seat back in the sim 10 minutes before the end of our 4th sim because he'd had enough of a particularly condescending instructor's nonsense. A short non-verbal conversation between us (while the instructor droned on about something stupid) resulted in him buckling back in and we finished up without further incident. But he was about 6.9 seconds from going down the sim escape rope. True effing story.
I found value in the 320 apps. The oral is pretty much you go through the flow, and the check airman stops you and asks about the systems and logic behind the switch or button (airbus, right?). The app is PERFECT for this, since each button/switch is clickable and pops up relevant limits and logic. Several of us in the class would use the app down in the hotel bar area for small group study, in addition to pinning up the cockpit posters and running through the flows with our sim partners or whoever else wanted to run through them. Small group study participation wasn't crucial but it helped me out quite a bit so I recommend finding at least one or two others to go over flows and systems with during your off time.
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